Kid thunder

[kid_thunder]

[. I understand his discomfort on the inside,he's used to being the smaller and more inexperienced guy.

Not to dog on Andrew, as I have nothing against him, but this also is not true?

this is his boxrec listing. As you can see, most of the people he has fought were 0-0-0 or similar, with a few having more experience, a few with limited, but largely he has more experience then most he faces.

So seeing as being pro is your measurin stick of a fighter, he surely has more 'pro' experience then most everyone he fought.

Andrew Hartley

That's the same Oisen Fagan who was on pay per view against Amir Khan recently.

yes ................young blood for the record dumas fought kickboxing for 8yrs

[Youngblood]

yes ................young blood for the record dumas fought kickboxing for 8yrs

ya Andrew, Wasn't saying anything more then you have a fair bit of pro experience. 17 fights is a lot. Many fighters never get that many.

[Tilt A Whirl]

yes ................young blood for the record dumas fought kickboxing for 8yrs

ya Andrew, Wasn't saying anything more then you have a fair bit of pro experience. 17 fights is a lot. Many fighters never get that many.

Yes,and what we were saying is that for the first time in his career,he got to fight somebody with similar experience and he won. I dont care what the judges said,though one of them probably had to have the results of the first two rounds blackberried to him because he sure as hell wasnt in his chair for them.
Andrew has improved alot,more then I thought he would that quickly,you enjoyed ripping on him when he didnt have any training fighting guys with more experience,give him credit when he improves

[Youngblood]

yes ................young blood for the record dumas fought kickboxing for 8yrs

ya Andrew, Wasn't saying anything more then you have a fair bit of pro experience. 17 fights is a lot. Many fighters never get that many.

Yes,and what we were saying is that for the first time in his career,he got to fight somebody with similar experience and he won. I dont care what the judges said,though one of them probably had to have the results of the first two rounds blackberried to him because he sure as hell wasnt in his chair for them.
Andrew has improved alot,more then I thought he would that quickly,you enjoyed ripping on him when he didnt have any training fighting guys with more experience,give him credit when he improves

I have given Andrew credit for improving. Maybe you should go dig up the post of his video of the fight when it was first went up. No one needs convincing that Andrew was ill-prepared and overmatched in near every fight of his 5 years and 17 fights as a professional ( he shouldn't need excuses for his choices to fight this way). He still had more pro fighting experience then most of his competition. Period.

Maybe you should learn to read. Once again this isn't about Andrew at all. I like Andrew. You, on the other hand are delusional, loaded with excuses about everything, and basically batshit crazy. So not about Andrew. About you. Got it?

So go ahead and post whatever you want to follow, I will no longer be responding to you (well maybe just with that vid), and good luck with the whole lunatic thing.

[Tilt A Whirl]

ya Andrew, Wasn't saying anything more then you have a fair bit of pro experience. 17 fights is a lot. Many fighters never get that many.

Yes,and what we were saying is that for the first time in his career,he got to fight somebody with similar experience and he won. I dont care what the judges said,though one of them probably had to have the results of the first two rounds blackberried to him because he sure as hell wasnt in his chair for them.
Andrew has improved alot,more then I thought he would that quickly,you enjoyed ripping on him when he didnt have any training fighting guys with more experience,give him credit when he improves

I have given Andrew credit for improving. Maybe you should go dig up the post of his video of the fight when it was first went up. No one needs convincing that Andrew was ill-prepared and overmatched in near every fight of his 5 years and 17 fights as a professional ( he shouldn't need excuses for his choices to fight this way). He still had more pro fighting experience then most of his competition. Period.

Maybe you should learn to read. Once again this isn't about Andrew at all. I like Andrew. You, on the other hand are delusional, loaded with excuses about everything, and basically batshit crazy. So not about Andrew. About you. Got it?

So go ahead and post whatever you want to follow, I will no longer be responding to you (well maybe just with that vid), and good luck with the whole lunatic thing.

Not making any excuses for his earlier fights,its how they run things down there. And he had a habit(and will admit to) biting off more then he could chew. I have to stop him constantly,or he'll fight anyone anywhere. So I have to constantly tell him,"Dude,that guy will kill you"
Oh yeah,have fun with the whole not understanding the buisness thing
You'll make a great pro,for somebody whose greedy and grasping,I mean if you have any talent,otherwise you'll just be an undercard with a broken nose.If you have any talent,you'll just be broken and broke,but at least youd have made your manager money.

[Plopeater]

Trainer Monkey bloke

Is there any chance you could train me via PM. I fancy being a pro boxer but have no experience and have seen the wonders you have done for Andrew.

I know with your backing I can become a true legimate like Andrew with his trailer belt.I just need to find a promotor in the UK who will run an equivalent, maybe the HTF (Homeless Tramp Federation)

Now I have never thrown a punch but come in at 234 lbs at 5ft 10. I like to think of myself undertall and not medically obese. I'm sure with you advising me on my diet I can get down to a reasonable weight, as many tramps cant afford food , so I would struggle to get an opponent.

I do have access to a heavy bag and gloves at work so can film a video next week and upload here and you could train me in my quest to become champion.

I look forward to hearing back from you with any advice for an upcoming pro

[Dark Lord Al]

Trainer Monkey bloke

Is there any chance you could train me via PM. I fancy being a pro boxer but have no experience and have seen the wonders you have done for Andrew.

I know with your backing I can become a true legimate like Andrew with his trailer belt.I just need to find a promotor in the UK who will run an equivalent, maybe the HTF (Homeless Tramp Federation)

Now I have never thrown a punch but come in at 234 lbs at 5ft 10. I like to think of myself undertall and not medically obese. I'm sure with you advising me on my diet I can get down to a reasonable weight, at many tramps cant afford food , so I would struggle to get an opponent.

I do have access to a heavy bad and gloves at work so can film a video next week and upload here and you could train me in my quest to become champion.

I look forward to hearing back from you with any advice for an upcoming pro

Plop once again you show your excellent wit , oustanding post.