Barrera v Khan - WEIGH IN VID - Plus Undercard - STICKY!

[Majesty]

Khan gets no credit he foguht a fighter with one eye and did nothing to him.
Barrera caught almost all of those punches with his gloves.

And Barerra was never able to get off because Khan wouldn't let him.

Seriously can you give him some credit? If he had went in there and fought stupid Barerra would have caught him with.

Khan deserves credit. No excuses.

Ok yeh Khan won.
Puttin aside the whole cut thing....

Khan fought someone who he has speed, "slickness", height and huge age advantage over, who was fightin with one eye and wasn't goin forward at him and all Khan could do is hit his gloves...
I mean WDF?
What did Khan accomplish?

He accomplished keeping Barerra from getting off. From not letting him get set. Not letting him land anything truly flush, and keeping his defense up at the times Barerra would try to get off. Keeping him at a distance and fighting his fight while never letting Barerra into it.

Khan accomplished a lot.

[clintuk]

I don't think anyone on here is calling Khan a world beater after that, but that's not the point, if you look at the fight and see how vastly he's improved, that's what's important.

He wasn't really fighting a shot fighter, he was fighting the memories of Prescott and his own insecurities in the ring, which by that performance, in a fight which was touted to go either way before it began, is damn good in my eyes.

Credit where it's due to a great gameplan executed to perfection by Khan and Freddie Roach.

[Gandalf]

And Barerra was never able to get off because Khan wouldn't let him.

Seriously can you give him some credit? If he had went in there and fought stupid Barerra would have caught him with.

Khan deserves credit. No excuses.

Ok yeh Khan won.
Puttin aside the whole cut thing....

Khan fought someone who he has speed, "slickness", height and huge age advantage over, who was fightin with one eye and wasn't goin forward at him and all Khan could do is hit his gloves...
I mean WDF?
What did Khan accomplish?

He accomplished keeping Barerra from getting off. From not letting him get set. Not letting him land anything truly flush, and keeping his defense up at the times Barerra would try to get off. Keeping him at a distance and fighting his fight while never letting Barerra into it.

Khan accomplished a lot.

He opened a bad cut with his head and won a few rounds with flashy hands and then the fight was stopped on a technicality. I don't think he accomplished a lot at all. He showed a lot of improvements but he didnt beat Barrera fair and square.

Mick is right, the corner team was stupid and Marco obviously has his pride. It should have been stopped earlier. Khan did NOT deserve this win. It's sad to see a fight that promised so much end like that.

[Majesty]

Ok yeh Khan won.
Puttin aside the whole cut thing....

Khan fought someone who he has speed, "slickness", height and huge age advantage over, who was fightin with one eye and wasn't goin forward at him and all Khan could do is hit his gloves...
I mean WDF?
What did Khan accomplish?

He accomplished keeping Barerra from getting off. From not letting him get set. Not letting him land anything truly flush, and keeping his defense up at the times Barerra would try to get off. Keeping him at a distance and fighting his fight while never letting Barerra into it.

Khan accomplished a lot.

He opened a bad cut with his head and won a few rounds with flashy hands and then the fight was stopped on a technicality. I don't think he accomplished a lot at all. He showed a lot of improvements but he didnt beat Barrera fair and square.

Mick is right, the corner team was stupid and Marco obviously has his pride. It should have been stopped earlier. Khan did NOT deserve this win. It's sad to see a fight that promised so much end like that.

What else could Barerra have done differently to win the fight then? If the cut was such a huge factor in his losing tell me, what would or could barerra have done differently to win that fight? because obviously nothing he was doing up to that point was working.

[Gandalf]

He accomplished keeping Barerra from getting off. From not letting him get set. Not letting him land anything truly flush, and keeping his defense up at the times Barerra would try to get off. Keeping him at a distance and fighting his fight while never letting Barerra into it.

Khan accomplished a lot.

He opened a bad cut with his head and won a few rounds with flashy hands and then the fight was stopped on a technicality. I don't think he accomplished a lot at all. He showed a lot of improvements but he didnt beat Barrera fair and square.

Mick is right, the corner team was stupid and Marco obviously has his pride. It should have been stopped earlier. Khan did NOT deserve this win. It's sad to see a fight that promised so much end like that.

What else could Barerra have done differently to win the fight then? If the cut was such a huge factor in his losing tell me, what would or could barerra have done differently to win that fight? because obviously nothing he was doing up to that point was working.

Well Khan always starts quickly. Barrera was covering up well and most of those combos were just rattling off of the gloves. Without the cut I imagine Barrera would have been a little more agressive early on, but I always expected Khan to start faster cut or no cut. What I expected to see was Barrera to gradually open up more and more and to unnerve Khan by still being there and constantly checking his chin. Eventually that pressure would have led to an exciting final few rounds where Barrera would hopefully have come through with his heart.

Getting cut so early and having to fish blood off his face every 30 seconds screwed up a lot of things. And it was caused by a headbut after all.

[clintuk]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

[Gandalf]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

Yes, he did improve and he won his rounds well. But the cut was a mess and Barrera wasn't truly beaten in there. Im such a long time Barrera fan too so it was tough to swallow.

[clintuk]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

Yes, he did improve and he won his rounds well. But the cut was a mess and Barrera wasn't truly beaten in there. Im such a long time Barrera fan too so it was tough to swallow.

It's harsh for Barerra, and really sucks for a ring legend to go out like that I agree. Just think this thread should focus a bit more on Khan's improvements instead of constantly giving him a hard time for something which isn't his fault. I do wish it hadn't stopped on a cut though, worst way in my opinion.

[iwng100]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

Yes, I completely agree, it’s fair and classy to give always credit to the winner if it’s not a robbery.

[Gandalf]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

Yes, I completely agree, it’s fair and classy to give always credit to the winner if it’s not a robbery.

In it's own way it was a robbery though. The fight should have been a NC. How can you give credit to something so inconclusive. Manny Pac beat Barrera, now Khan really didnt.

[Spicoli]

Was it as bad and busted up as it sounds?The quintessential crossroads fight.Was the cut the same one intentionally delivered in Barreras last fight by the 1-8 no hoper ??

Whatever the case,Barrera needs to retire.He has zero to prove and his career and status remain intact,to be respected and admired a great Champion.We as fans should be grateful for the many memories he has provided.I am glad that he did not try to politic or massages the rules .......He is a warrior,and I'm betting that he believed deep down he could win,cut or no cut,thus he continued on like a Champ.Have to respect that.Congrats to Khan....sounds like he may have matured and did exactly what he needed to do in executing his game plan.It was his day and merits acknowledgment.

Would have loved to see Enzo getting starched,Ola strikes me as an oddity,Fancy's himself a huge hitter despite the record.

[BoomBoom]

It was strange that in round 4 when he was talking to the doc and ref it wasnt stopped then. MAB said himself that he thought it should have been stopped sooner. Id like to hear what was said between them. And the cut was spewing blood the same that round as the next.

[Gandalf]

It was strange that in round 4 when he was talking to the doc and ref it wasnt stopped then. MAB said himself that he thought it should have been stopped sooner. Id like to hear what was said between them. And the cut was spewing blood the same that round as the next.

I noticed that too. I was thinking Barrera was just showing his pride though and actually expected him to stop before the end of the round and yet he came out for the 5th. He had no need to do that. Its fishy to me, I would like to know what happened there too.

[BoomBoom]

It was strange that in round 4 when he was talking to the doc and ref it wasnt stopped then. MAB said himself that he thought it should have been stopped sooner. Id like to hear what was said between them. And the cut was spewing blood the same that round as the next.

I noticed that too. I was thinking Barrera was just showing his pride though and actually expected him to stop before the end of the round and yet he came out for the 5th. He had no need to do that. Its fishy to me, I would like to know what happened there too.

I was thinking there could have been a communication problem. Marcos english is ok but not great.

[Gandalf]

It was strange that in round 4 when he was talking to the doc and ref it wasnt stopped then. MAB said himself that he thought it should have been stopped sooner. Id like to hear what was said between them. And the cut was spewing blood the same that round as the next.

I noticed that too. I was thinking Barrera was just showing his pride though and actually expected him to stop before the end of the round and yet he came out for the 5th. He had no need to do that. Its fishy to me, I would like to know what happened there too.

I was thinking there could have been a communication problem. Marcos english is ok but not great.

Could have been. No doubts that Marco was bothered by the cut. He had no need to come out for that 5th.