Barrera v Khan - WEIGH IN VID - Plus Undercard - STICKY!

[Gandalf]

He accomplished keeping Barerra from getting off. From not letting him get set. Not letting him land anything truly flush, and keeping his defense up at the times Barerra would try to get off. Keeping him at a distance and fighting his fight while never letting Barerra into it.

Khan accomplished a lot.

He opened a bad cut with his head and won a few rounds with flashy hands and then the fight was stopped on a technicality. I don't think he accomplished a lot at all. He showed a lot of improvements but he didnt beat Barrera fair and square.

Mick is right, the corner team was stupid and Marco obviously has his pride. It should have been stopped earlier. Khan did NOT deserve this win. It's sad to see a fight that promised so much end like that.

What else could Barerra have done differently to win the fight then? If the cut was such a huge factor in his losing tell me, what would or could barerra have done differently to win that fight? because obviously nothing he was doing up to that point was working.

Well Khan always starts quickly. Barrera was covering up well and most of those combos were just rattling off of the gloves. Without the cut I imagine Barrera would have been a little more agressive early on, but I always expected Khan to start faster cut or no cut. What I expected to see was Barrera to gradually open up more and more and to unnerve Khan by still being there and constantly checking his chin. Eventually that pressure would have led to an exciting final few rounds where Barrera would hopefully have come through with his heart.

Getting cut so early and having to fish blood off his face every 30 seconds screwed up a lot of things. And it was caused by a headbut after all.

[clintuk]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

[Gandalf]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

Yes, he did improve and he won his rounds well. But the cut was a mess and Barrera wasn't truly beaten in there. Im such a long time Barrera fan too so it was tough to swallow.

[clintuk]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

Yes, he did improve and he won his rounds well. But the cut was a mess and Barrera wasn't truly beaten in there. Im such a long time Barrera fan too so it was tough to swallow.

It's harsh for Barerra, and really sucks for a ring legend to go out like that I agree. Just think this thread should focus a bit more on Khan's improvements instead of constantly giving him a hard time for something which isn't his fault. I do wish it hadn't stopped on a cut though, worst way in my opinion.

[iwng100]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

Yes, I completely agree, it’s fair and classy to give always credit to the winner if it’s not a robbery.

[Gandalf]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

Yes, I completely agree, it’s fair and classy to give always credit to the winner if it’s not a robbery.

In it's own way it was a robbery though. The fight should have been a NC. How can you give credit to something so inconclusive. Manny Pac beat Barrera, now Khan really didnt.

[Fenster]

CutMeMickster, there was 20,000 paying punters in that joint not 200... if they stopped it after one or two rounds there would have been a RIOT!!!!

[CutMeMick]

CutMeMickster, there was 20,000 paying punters in that joint not 200... if they stopped it after one or two rounds there would have been a RIOT!!!!

So what's the problem?

[Fenster]

CutMeMickster, there was 20,000 paying punters in that joint not 200... if they stopped it after one or two rounds there would have been a RIOT!!!!

So what's the problem?

We'll never see Missy again... she's probably in the nick now

[iwng100]

It's fair to say Barerra's cut hindered his vision and thus his ability to fight Khan to the level he wanted to, but I think it's unfair to give Khan zero credit at all. He did improve and he did appear to have a good gameplan.

Yes, I completely agree, it’s fair and classy to give always credit to the winner if it’s not a robbery.

In it's own way it was a robbery though. The fight should have been a NC. How can you give credit to something so inconclusive. Manny Pac beat Barrera, now Khan really didnt.

Sorry Miles but I have another definition for a robbery.
I also think Khan deserved some credit; maybe Barrera didn’t deserve to lose but Khan deserved to win IMO. I respect your opinion but tell me what Amir had to do to deserve it.

[Gandalf]

Yes, I completely agree, it’s fair and classy to give always credit to the winner if it’s not a robbery.

In it's own way it was a robbery though. The fight should have been a NC. How can you give credit to something so inconclusive. Manny Pac beat Barrera, now Khan really didnt.

Sorry Miles but I have another definition for a robbery.
I also think Khan deserved some credit; maybe Barrera didn’t deserve to lose but Khan deserved to win IMO. I respect your opinion but tell me what Amir had to do to deserve it.

To beat Barrera into submission or else hammer him on the cards. Barrera wasn't stopped and incompetence meant that a NC wasn't called sooner. It was an inconclusive result.

I've conceded that Khan was boxing well, but having said that, Barrera had blood pouring into his eye for repeated rounds. Khan was throwing pitty pat punches against the gloves of a man who couldn't see clearly. Khan did what needed to be done and the rules say he won.

But anybody can see that it has a LOT of question marks.

[JazMerkin]

In it's own way it was a robbery though. The fight should have been a NC. How can you give credit to something so inconclusive. Manny Pac beat Barrera, now Khan really didnt.

Sorry Miles but I have another definition for a robbery.
I also think Khan deserved some credit; maybe Barrera didn’t deserve to lose but Khan deserved to win IMO. I respect your opinion but tell me what Amir had to do to deserve it.

To beat Barrera into submission or else hammer him on the cards. Barrera wasn't stopped and incompetence meant that a NC wasn't called sooner. It was an inconclusive result.

I've conceded that Khan was boxing well, but having said that, Barrera had blood pouring into his eye for repeated rounds. Khan was throwing pitty pat punches against the gloves of a man who couldn't see clearly. Khan did what needed to be done and the rules say he won.

But anybody can see that it has a LOT of question marks.

Would you question Calzaghe's win over RJJ in the same way? Because there's a lot of similarities in that one sentence

[iwng100]

In it's own way it was a robbery though. The fight should have been a NC. How can you give credit to something so inconclusive. Manny Pac beat Barrera, now Khan really didnt.

Sorry Miles but I have another definition for a robbery.
I also think Khan deserved some credit; maybe Barrera didn’t deserve to lose but Khan deserved to win IMO. I respect your opinion but tell me what Amir had to do to deserve it.

To beat Barrera into submission or else hammer him on the cards. Barrera wasn't stopped and incompetence meant that a NC wasn't called sooner. It was an inconclusive result.

I've conceded that Khan was boxing well, but having said that, Barrera had blood pouring into his eye for repeated rounds. Khan was throwing pitty pat punches against the gloves of a man who couldn't see clearly. Khan did what needed to be done and the rules say he won.

But anybody can see that it has a LOT of question marks.

Just give him a little credit for this please, it cost you nothing. Anyway, I predicted and I wanted a Barrera win too but Khan did nothing wrong.

[Spicoli]

Was it as bad and busted up as it sounds?The quintessential crossroads fight.Was the cut the same one intentionally delivered in Barreras last fight by the 1-8 no hoper ??

Whatever the case,Barrera needs to retire.He has zero to prove and his career and status remain intact,to be respected and admired a great Champion.We as fans should be grateful for the many memories he has provided.I am glad that he did not try to politic or massages the rules .......He is a warrior,and I'm betting that he believed deep down he could win,cut or no cut,thus he continued on like a Champ.Have to respect that.Congrats to Khan....sounds like he may have matured and did exactly what he needed to do in executing his game plan.It was his day and merits acknowledgment.

Would have loved to see Enzo getting starched,Ola strikes me as an oddity,Fancy's himself a huge hitter despite the record.