Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
Let me go line by line on this Bilbo

1. F*ck the UN...what a bullshit inept org
2. Your not really going to pin Abu Ghraib on the President are you? Soldiers when not properly supervised do dumb shit. In this case really dumb shit
3. I believe that Bush truly believed the intel on WMD. Now his admin may have very well created an environment that fostered bringing the "right" Intel. I just think Bush is such a devout christian that he prays at night for the right answer and wakes up in the morning bound and determined to do it. The deal sealer on this for me is Powell. The man embodies integrity. I don't believe he would speak in front of the world if he didn't believe it.
4. I don't buy the middle east conquest either. Iran should have gotten a punitive military response to its training and equiping shia militia to fight in Iraq. They gave us every reason to launch a couple dozen cruise missiles and we did nothing
5. Gitmo- maybe you can find one but I don't know of a time when enemy combatant POWs were not held till their respective war was over. As far as water boarding...well frankly I don't give a shit...Water boarded in gitmo or beheaded on Al jazeera...where is my blind fold?
6. 1 million deaths: I think this is a skewed stat. How many were combatants? How many were from sectarian violence? How many were due to the enemy using them as human shields? I know American's have both accidentally killed and murdered Iraqis but that number is no where near a million. I mean why not tack on all of Darfur b/c of what Bush didn't do?
7. Red Cross....Seriously...thats like asking a Vegan how he feels about McDonalds
8. What did you expect Biden/Obama to say during their campaign? "He is a great guy and we commend him on a job well done!"

I just don't buy the maliciously coniving genius working for global domination. The guy aint that smart. I think he is a Bible thumping good ol boy with romantic ideas about spreading deomcracy and glory. He picked the wrong advisers...got some bad info...had a crappy plan and acted too fast
I'm not saying he would be found guilty necessarily if he was tried but just that there is easily enough evidence against him to warrant investigation.

I mean your attitude to 'Well I think he really believed in weapons of mass destruction because he's a devout Christian and was probably deceived like everyone else' is the lamest justification of someone ever. You can't not investigate someone becuase you think they are a sound bloke its ridiculous.

That's like what happened with Michael Jackson. He gets accused of multiple sex crimes against kids and his fans are all like 'but he's so sweet and innocent like a child himself, he'd never hurt anyone'.

Imagine if the courts decided that the people were right and so not to bring it to trial because 'you know what, it's Micheal, he's a legend, we love him he must be alright'

Now I'm not making an opinion of Michael's guilt one way or the other, or of the result of innonence, I'm just saying that he couldn't just avoid the trial becuase people thought he was innocent.

If there is evidence to suggest criminal activity then any just legal system is bound to investigate it.

Bush and his admin clearly deserve to be investigated for their roles in the torture techniques used, the falsification of evidence related to wmd's etc.

They may be found innocent of all charges but at least it would have been brought to the attention of the law courts and properly investigated.

I think its highly likely that in the future there could be some kind of trial against him and people around him.