Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?

[brucelee]

Barrera took the risk and must suffer for it? What kind of talk is that? We have no idea what was said by the doctor in round 4. For all we know the doctor might have said Barrera would lose by tko if he couldn't continue, we don't know the full situation. At the end of the day that fight was not managed professionally and what should have been a fun fight got tarnished, I'm ashamed by how the fight was managed.

That's just funny Miles. "The doctor might have said Barrera would lose by TKO if he couldn't continue" Are you serious? Someone as intelligent and as experienced as Barrera (with his trainer and his coach around him) not knowing the consequence if he stop fighting in the first round because of an accidental headbutt?

Fact of the matter is.... Barrera was hoping for a TKO. He gambled and lost. He was fighting for honor. He lost. No big deal because he did his best. he tried to fight against the odds and continue. What's the problem with that? As a boxing fan, Barrera looked greater to me than before for not quitting immediately.

Nothing about this is funny. I don't understand why the fight wasn't stopped. It's not about Barrera looking more great for me, Bruce. It's about being given a fair shake of the dice. I do concede that Barrera's corner should have got him out of there. You must have read the article Diane posted, that was gruesome reading. But Barrera's corner team are not trained doctors, that doctor that checked Barerra was supposedly a professional though. Barrera's cut was pushing 3 inches long at a precarious point on his skull. Even those biased British commentators were saying how the blood would just not stop and how it was like a motoring accident. Why could the doctor not see that or the referee for that matter? Why did it take until the 5th to stop it when that is the convenient point at which Khan takes his win?

It reeks of shadiness and ineptitude. Barrera is a fighter at the end of the day and would have carried on regardless of the damage. Nobody could ever deny his courage, but his courage is not what I am debating here.

You cannot exclude courage in this discussion Miles. You just can't. It's the building block of my contention.

Courage is the reason why Barrera decided to continue. It's the reason why he's still fighting despite his age. No Miles. I beg to disagree.

[Diane]

I think this pic says it all. What competent doctor would allow a fighter to continue to fight with a 3 inch gash, and this much blood, that would obviously impede the fighters ability to see punches coming at him.

Plain and simple I think.

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

I think this pic says it all. What competent doctor would allow a fighter to continue to fight with a 3 inch gash, and this much blood, that would obviously impede the fighters ability to see punches coming at him.

Plain and simple I think.

The doctor really sucked... Plain and simple like Diane said.

[Tilt A Whirl]

The blood is obviously going in to his eye

[Gandalf]

This is a decent piece that sums up this travesty well...

SportingNews.com - The Sporting Blog

[Howlin Mad Missy]

This is a decent piece that sums up this travesty well...

SportingNews.com - The Sporting Blog

on the money article.

the press won't slam anything to do with warren in case he doesn't let them play & they would have to pay for ticket to watch boxing.

[Fenster]

This is a decent piece that sums up this travesty well...

SportingNews.com - The Sporting Blog

on the money article.

the press won't slam anything to do with warren in case he doesn't let them play & they would have to pay for ticket to watch boxing.

That's true.. but many sports writers seem genuinely happy the guy representing Britain won. I too find the lack of refrences to the cut ruining the fight jarring.

That "Sporting Blog" article is OK but it's easy with hindsight to say what SHOULD have happened. Stopping the fight so early may have caused a RIOT. Barrera might have knocked him spark-out after being allowed to carry on. Barrera might have said he was OK to continue then we would have threads saying they fixed it to SAVE Khan from a KO

[Gandalf]

That's just funny Miles. "The doctor might have said Barrera would lose by TKO if he couldn't continue" Are you serious? Someone as intelligent and as experienced as Barrera (with his trainer and his coach around him) not knowing the consequence if he stop fighting in the first round because of an accidental headbutt?

Fact of the matter is.... Barrera was hoping for a TKO. He gambled and lost. He was fighting for honor. He lost. No big deal because he did his best. he tried to fight against the odds and continue. What's the problem with that? As a boxing fan, Barrera looked greater to me than before for not quitting immediately.

Nothing about this is funny. I don't understand why the fight wasn't stopped. It's not about Barrera looking more great for me, Bruce. It's about being given a fair shake of the dice. I do concede that Barrera's corner should have got him out of there. You must have read the article Diane posted, that was gruesome reading. But Barrera's corner team are not trained doctors, that doctor that checked Barerra was supposedly a professional though. Barrera's cut was pushing 3 inches long at a precarious point on his skull. Even those biased British commentators were saying how the blood would just not stop and how it was like a motoring accident. Why could the doctor not see that or the referee for that matter? Why did it take until the 5th to stop it when that is the convenient point at which Khan takes his win?

It reeks of shadiness and ineptitude. Barrera is a fighter at the end of the day and would have carried on regardless of the damage. Nobody could ever deny his courage, but his courage is not what I am debating here.

You cannot exclude courage in this discussion Miles. You just can't. It's the building block of my contention.

Courage is the reason why Barrera decided to continue. It's the reason why he's still fighting despite his age. No Miles. I beg to disagree.

Are you trying to wind me up?

I honestly don't believe you have taken in anything I have said over the duration of this thread. You seem to have missed my points entirely.

Look at that photo Diane has posted just now. We are not medical experts and we can see quite clearly this was no nick above the eyelid or a swelling on the brow. This was a fully fledged laceration of the head with blood streaming into the eye uncontrollably.

Can you tell me with any seriousness that this bout should not have been stopped sooner than it was? Forget the talk of courage, and answer that question as a boxing fan who has seen many cuts before and seen fights stopped for far less?