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    Default Re: Do we write off heavyweights faster than other fighters who lose?

    The problems with Brock and Chambers is that they were BOXERS...but I thought Calvin Brock was a pretty good fighter, he was difficult to hit and he had a little pop in his punches....it's a shame his eye got messed up but at least he has an education to fall back on.


    Eddie Chambers might be out of his natural weight class but he's a tough little guy. I thought he did a very good job vs Povetkin and had his stamina been better he would have won that fight. I think he's got a huge chance to knock off Sam Peter but hell after Sam Peter got beat by Wladimir he was never viewed as dangerous or a threat to anyone which really surprised me as EVERYONE called him the next Tyson or the next Ibeabuchi....I never thought he was THAT good but I always considered him a dangerous fighter

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    Default Re: Do we write off heavyweights faster than other fighters who lose?

    I think fighters in all weight classes get written off too fast when they lose their first fight. But I think in many cases a fighter can write themselves off and lose alot of confidence which can cause a downward spiral.

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    Default Re: Do we write off heavyweights faster than other fighters who lose?

    A good sized Heavyweight will always be a Heavyweight, if they fail there, they do (I feel) get written off a bit too soon. You have to come back from losses and do something special to get back in the mix as a Heavyweight.

    Smaller guys like Cotto (just for example) can have a couple of poor fights and say they were weight drained, move up and be a bigger sucess than they were at the previous weight. Then it's all forgotten, about the poor performances, he was weight drained

    BTW I'm not suggesting Cotto was NOT weight drained, just saying it can be an extra lifeline in a fighters career

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    Default Re: Do we write off heavyweights faster than other fighters who lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    The problems with Brock and Chambers is that they were BOXERS...but I thought Calvin Brock was a pretty good fighter, he was difficult to hit and he had a little pop in his punches....it's a shame his eye got messed up but at least he has an education to fall back on.


    Eddie Chambers might be out of his natural weight class but he's a tough little guy. I thought he did a very good job vs Povetkin and had his stamina been better he would have won that fight. I think he's got a huge chance to knock off Sam Peter but hell after Sam Peter got beat by Wladimir he was never viewed as dangerous or a threat to anyone which really surprised me as EVERYONE called him the next Tyson or the next Ibeabuchi....I never thought he was THAT good but I always considered him a dangerous fighter
    Peter is another Tua in my opinion. Dangerous puncher but always seems to falter at the higher level of competition. He was fortunate that the heavyweight division was so weak and won the title from Maskaev. But at the very least we'll always get a highlight knockout from him. But ever since McCline nearly stopped him that aura of invincibility was gone. Even though he still had an intimidation factor after the Klitschko fight. McCline got rid of it.
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    Default Re: Do we write off heavyweights faster than other fighters who lose?

    i think it has to do with the fact that the HW division is so weak, that you'd expect any HW with decent power and boxing ability to be a force in the division, yet they have the tendency to fuck it up and usually against weak opposition at that (Peter/McCline), so i really dunno

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    Default Re: Do we write off heavyweights faster than other fighters who lose?

    The division isn't weak or thin....the matchups that need to be made aren't being made. There are plenty of good fighters but there is little consitency in the division.

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    Default Re: Do we write off heavyweights faster than other fighters who lose?

    The answer I put on the survey is yes! If you are a middleweight as it was mentioned by someone else before me, you can rest go up and eat more pasta and be refreshed but as a Heavyweight getting tagged with murderous punches, where the hell are you going to go, Cruiser weight? The heavyweight championship is still the ultimate prize in boxing and the pride of a heavyweight won't let him go down a division. At heavyweight you are under a microscope and all eyes are on this division even if it is weak and there was a time when everyone would make plans to watch the big guys fight and it can happen again when the division gets recycled.

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    Default Re: Do we write off heavyweights faster than other fighters who lose?

    No they get the same treatment as the other divisions, But the Heavy div just sucks ass right now compared to the 70's and early 90's. I mean, those era's are hard to beat much less compare too.
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    Default Re: Do we write off heavyweights faster than other fighters who lose?

    I think they are written off right away and too early compared to other divisions.

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