vitali Klitschko vs J C Gomez 3-21-09

[jon09]

jon09, not only are the defenses of the two brothers pretty solid but they are both so athletic that it is hard to move and get an angle on them even after they miss a punch.

It's a good idea but it's extremely hard to do and there is no telling how well those guys take body shots....I've never ever seen them be bothered by them and they have definently been hit to the body before.

I think the best way to beat either brother is to stay in the pocket and keep them from tying up or pushing off. And you have to either have great defense or a hell of a chin yourself to withstand what they bring to the table.

Yes I have seen fighters tag their body here and there but have never seen anyone really dedicate themselves and chop them down. Most of the challengers will punch up the middle with a jab and then throw wide haymakers to the head in the event that they will land against them. I just cannot see these guys existing at the lower weight classes with their limited punch array. I mean take Vlad for instance, he did not throw 1 uppercut in the Rahman fight or even try to punch to the body when the opportunity was there. And JCG was pretty much fighting 1 handed against Vitali with that pawing jab and horrible left cross that he kept lunging in with. I just do not understand that when you are boxing in the professionals and fighting for a major championship then why would you not come in shape and fight with everything you have to beat the other guy? I don't mean to ramble but it is frustrating to see these 3 big heavyweight champions in Valuev,Vlad and Vitali that to me are very limited and no challenger is good enough to take them out and I don't see and any challenger in the near future which is sad to see.

[El Kabong]

I don't mean to ramble but it is frustrating to see these 3 big heavyweight champions in Valuev,Vlad and Vitali that to me are very limited and no challenger is good enough to take them out and I don't see and any challenger in the near future which is sad to see.

I can understand some of what you posted but when honestly did we have a heavyweight who dedicated an attack to the body? Mike Tyson? Joe Frazier? Now look at their size and fighting style, sure Frazier was kind of tall to fight the way he did but for the most part these guys were short, they fought in a crouch, and they had short arms.

Wlad and Vitali don't go to the body a lot because they like to keep distance, they don't want to give up their height, and hell if you can beat someone upside the head and they can't stop your attack then why change anything

Nicolay Valuev shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Wlad and Vitali...Valuev is a freak show, while Wlad and Vitali are legitimate fighters willing to fight and beat the best out there.


Cortez, Teddy Atlas does love getting on his soapbox....as for your statements re: David Haye, Wladimir and Vitali will knock him out, it won't even be close

[Cortez The Killer]

I don't mean to ramble but it is frustrating to see these 3 big heavyweight champions in Valuev,Vlad and Vitali that to me are very limited and no challenger is good enough to take them out and I don't see and any challenger in the near future which is sad to see.

I can understand some of what you posted but when honestly did we have a heavyweight who dedicated an attack to the body? Mike Tyson? Joe Frazier? Now look at their size and fighting style, sure Frazier was kind of tall to fight the way he did but for the most part these guys were short, they fought in a crouch, and they had short arms.

Wlad and Vitali don't go to the body a lot because they like to keep distance, they don't want to give up their height, and hell if you can beat someone upside the head and they can't stop your attack then why change anything

Nicolay Valuev shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Wlad and Vitali...Valuev is a freak show, while Wlad and Vitali are legitimate fighters willing to fight and beat the best out there.


Cortez, Teddy Atlas does love getting on his soapbox....as for your statements re: David Haye, Wladimir and Vitali will knock him out, it won't even be close

I realized after I posted I can see Haye beating that version of Vitali I didn't really mean it..

Still, looking at last night...Vitali should have stopped Gomez 2-3 rounds before he did. Granted, Gomez presented no risk to him and he knew the fight was in the bag, but for a guy of his experience he got REAL sloppy in there during the 6th or 7th round when he was trying to finish Gomez.

Peter stood right in front of Vitali and acted as a punching bag. Gomez had some good movement, still was more hittable then Vitali took advantage of.

Also, for being 230 Gomez absorbed those right hands of Vitali pretty well. It was more of a "ouch that really hurt" then the eraser right hand that drops opponents immediately to the canvas that Wlad has.

So not that I would say I favor Haye versus Vitali but I think he has a lot better chance of defeating V.K. than he does Wlad. I think it would be a close fight.

[El Kabong]

#1 JCG is a southpaw and Vitali has never done well vs them...Byrd he was winning the fight but missed punches bad enough to screw his shoulder up and vs Corrie Sanders it was the only fight bar the Lewis fight where he legitimately got rocked.

#2 Vitali was gunning for the early KO and he admitted he was fighting in a hectic manner and that he didn't just focus on making contact in the early rounds.


I think JCG should be happy with his performance, lasting 9 rounds with Vitali isn't something everyone can do. I always wondered why JCG never got any big fights.

[XaduBoxer]

More pix... Vitali "pumping" on his friend and partner (sparring) Juan Carlos...

[Mar]

I'm not saying that haye or arreola for that matter could beat either of these two....but i will upgrade my opinion from almost no chance to a "maybe". I just don't know when it come to haye...i was totally against the guy at first but i dunno if he can get inside and land one or two of those crazy shots he may have a chance. Would i pick haye ?? No...but do it think it's crazy that some people would i don't think so anymore, haye seems like even if the body is too small or unwilling that he would risk it all to try. These last couple of guys they've fought just seem to be going through the motions underestimating how good, big, and strong these guys actually are and i don't think haye would. Just my thoughts, oh also not sure if it made any difference at all but it was still kinda shady to bring out that little ass slapbox ring the day before the fight, both guys should for whatever reason always be aware of anything out of the ordinary or agreed to.

[Hulk]

The Klitschko bros are like the cutest ugly girl at the bar.

Cus the heavyweight division is ugly and has been for the past 5 years.

Fuck everyone kissing their asses and pretending they are good boxers.

They are not.

They are fighting guys with no will to win, no game plan.

And slowly, methodically, boringly, beating them.

Thats all.