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    Default Re: stepping in with jab?

    sometimes i notice that when i step with my jab unless my foot placment is spot on it feels like i cant get my weight behind the punch kind of like its out of alignment,I think it is usually when i have tried to take to big a step so am trying to comcentrate on taking little baby steps or someimes not even advancing at all still using the same motion as stepping but without actually moving forward if that makes sense.Also is it supposed to always be a straight step or should it be a little to the left as if widen the stance slightly?

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    Default Re: stepping in with jab?

    Let me see if I can make a working definition for inside, outside, in-fighting and out-fighting.

    Assuming that a boxer has an arm extended and the opponent's face is at the tip of the first boxer's fist. Then we draw an imaginary line from the first boxer's elbow down to the floor. We can designate the space from the opposing fighter to the imaginary line as inside and then the space from the imaginary line to the boxer with the extended arm as outside. In-fighting and out-fighting is then defined by these spaces.

    A boxer is in-fighting when in the inside and out-fighting when outside. Each style follows different principles to be effective. In in-fighting, a fighter try to keep as close as possible to the adversary while in a low stance consequently leaning forward in order to inflict maximum damage. Trying to keep close is in a way a defensive strategy because if the opponent isn't use to punching in a confined space then a boxer inside won't receive any punches. On the other hand, in out-fighting a fighter tries to keep the opponent at the edge of their reach and hopefully keep the opponent away in order to receive minimum damage and inflict maximum damage.

    Given these definitions, stepping-in isn't unique to in-fighting because both out-fighters and in-fighters try to get into their range. If you deliver jabs to get inside it isn't in-fighting yet but a technique to get into range.

    Did I get it correct?

    Also, I have other things that I need help with.

    (1) out-boxers are often considered as defensive orriented, can they be considered as offensive? Given the discussion about steppin-in by one of our members, a boxer can move forward to get into their firing range while keeping their opponents at arm's length. (e.g. Paul Williams )

    (2) For an in-fighter, is jabbing your way inside the best way to get into range?

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    Default Re: stepping in with jab?

    Think of "out-fighting" as long-range boxing, that is controlling distance and staying just out of range of an opponent's punches through the use of footwork, feints and intelligent jabbing. On the other hand, "In-fighting" is typically defined as fighting at close range.

    The terms used with avoiding punches can cause confusion, take slipping to the outside of an opponent's jab for instance. Against an orthodox fighter, you'd be slipping to the right of their jab, that is that their jab goes over your left shoulder. If you were to slip to the inside of a jab, their jab would go over your right shoulder. It's reversed if you were to slip a straight right. In these cases it refers to where your head is in relation to your opponent's leads. You can also step to the outside of an opponent's lead (to the side of them).

    To answer your questions:
    1. Out-boxers, let's just call them boxers alright, can take the fight to their opponent. The idea here is to hit and not get hit. I recommend reading these threads: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-circling.html http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...u-get-hit.html

    2. Jabbing your way in is one way to go and not always best since there's more to it than that. A lot of an in-fighter's success comes from being able to counter most leads through slipping or other means. They may pressure an opponent thus causing them to throw a counterpunch in which they themselves are prepared to counter. It takes a lot of skill be stay at close range and be successful. I recommend reading this post: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ts-attack.html

    Depending on the fighters, the range in which a match is fought can vary or shift constantly.
    Last edited by Chris Nagel; 06-17-2009 at 03:41 PM.
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