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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Boxrec shows who won the fight. There are good valid points to argue both sides, but at the end what show on your record is what matters. Librado andrade would probably agree.
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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    hey missy i understand your a great fan of marco, that fight was frustrating and that damn headbutt ruined the match. Khan had some good moments you should admit, after all he was against a great fighter. Marco has a valid point though he had a hard time seeing khan cause of the cut. Im with you missy i think marco can still be champ and become a 4 time division champion. Plus the guy he had a close fight with JMM is the new 135 KING.

    As for khan, i think he does have potential as long as he stays focus and doesn't let any success get the best of his mind. Its a bit difficult to give much credit to khan because marco was a bit handicap but khan looked real fast and showed better ring generalship.

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    I don't think that is needed.

    You've started the thread which roughly translates to you over-ruling everyone elses opinion on the fight...like you're allowing everyone to debate it providing they all share the same opinion as you.

    People are going to oppose your opinion of the fight, as a mod i would have thought it would have been obvious to you that on a boxing forum, opinions are going to be different so personally attacking somebody for having the opposite opinion as you is not really called for.
    Ono do you believe Barrera's cut was not bad enough to have been stopped by the end of round 2? Have you not seen lesser cuts get a fight stopped?

    I would guess that of all the opinions I have been reading around the forums, and I have been reading a lot, because this a fight that has mobilised my interest. It would seem that most people would argue that the fight should have been a NC. There are a lot of people upset about what happened in this fight.

    And it shouldn't go away. Khan should be made to follow up after what happened against Prescott and stop running from that fight. Nobody is impressed by what happened against Barrera either (except the muppet media. ). Khan and Barrera have unfinished work IMO, and hopefully Barrera will at some point have his chance to get it straight too.
    Yeah it should have been stopped but i'm pretty sure if Barrera wanted it stopped earlier, it would have been. There is no way a ringside doctor or a referee would make Barrera continue into the 4th round so Khan gets the victory.

    And what the hell is all that about? Should be made? By who? I mean give him chance. After being brutallly ko'd he took on a guy who took Spadafora to SD...and then he took the Barrera fight. Not really the actions of a man running from a challenge....especially when he is considered a prospect and not a contender.

    And why would Khan get back in with Prescott until he is sure he has ironed out all the defensive issues that resulted in him getting ko'd. He'll probably fight Prescott again at some point in the future. If not, no big deal. There is no law that says you have to avenge all your losses.

    Yours and Missy Khan bashing is getting beyond a joke now mate. It's every single thread. It's worse than Danny G's Cotto lovefest. I appreciate that you are both Barrera fans but dis-crediting Khan at every opportunity is getting boring now.
    It isn't really Khan bashing though is it? I have stated over and over again that this fight should have been stopped earlier and the fight declared a NC. I am mainly attacking the referee and the doctor. I do not blame Khan himself for what happened and I have stated this on numerous occasions. Barrera was treated appalingly though in this fight and the officials quite clearly failed to do what they are being paid to do.

    I did say that he should rematch Prescott, and again I don't see that as an attack. I expect all fighters to try and avenge their losses, sooner rather than later too. I even think Barrera waited far too long for the rematch with Pac. It would have been a better fight had it taken place earlier. Barrera had the right idea in getting an instant rematch against Junior Jones, that's the type of attitude I like. Even if you get it wrong, it's better to go down trying. Under Warrens wing Khan will likely be kept away from Prescott a fair while longer. That is a slur upon Warren and not Khan. And I maintain that Khan has unfinished business with Barrera who should be granted a rematch within the next year.

    If Khan manages to dispose of Barrera, as it should be done and not as it was, then I will be VERY impressed. And as I keep saying, I wouldn't hold any grudges about it and will most willingly give him all the credit he deserves. If you look at my posting history, you will have seen that I am not someone who is unwilling to give credit where credit is due. Even if my fighter loses I am usually able to say, "fair enough, I was wrong. Well done". In this instance though, I find myself unable to do that. It was a sham, and I really cannot overlook that.

    I wouldn't say this is on every single thread either. There are about 3 threads running around. This is the only one I am bothering with at the moment, so I can't be accused of saying this all over the place on lots of other threads. It might not be fun to keep hearing about it, but this is perhaps because you are a Khan fan and would like to move on. I understand that, but this thread started with the intention of saying Khan should never have won. It's only fair that people are able to make that case.

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    Anyone watch Prizefighter last night? The one where a guy got stopped by a cut on the forehead following an accidental headbutt? The boxer wanted to continue but it was stopped in the same round the clash occured....

    Thought I'd share.

    Sky Sports | Boxing | News | Brawley takes Prizefighter title

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    hey missy i understand your a great fan of marco, that fight was frustrating and that damn headbutt ruined the match. Khan had some good moments you should admit, after all he was against a great fighter. Marco has a valid point though he had a hard time seeing khan cause of the cut. Im with you missy i think marco can still be champ and become a 4 time division champion. Plus the guy he had a close fight with JMM is the new 135 KING.

    As for khan, i think he does have potential as long as he stays focus and doesn't let any success get the best of his mind. Its a bit difficult to give much credit to khan because marco was a bit handicap but khan looked real fast and showed better ring generalship.
    Hi Julius. Thank you for comments. The problem for me in analysing the fight is that we have two fights to look at.

    90 to 120 seconds of action before the fight. Both fighters were moving well. Marco coming forward looking to cut down the ring, Khan looking to keep it long & with angles. In that work Khan landed 7/8 shots on target everything else was blocked/slipped missed. In this session it promised to be a good fight. Youth vs Experience.

    After the cut we got something very different. Marco backing up and occasionally launching an attack, Khan able to work without too much threat - I can see how that may have impressed many people, yes his hands were fast, yes he was moving well but looking at the tape again, most of Khan's work was missing. No question he was outpointing Barrera but I don't think that was surprising both as a matter of it being early in the fight and with the injury.

    I don't see how bringing these points up is inflammatory. I've even said elsewhere Khan looked to have improved...hardly bashing is it?

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Anyone watch Prizefighter last night? The one where a guy got stopped by a cut on the forehead following an accidental headbutt? The boxer wanted to continue but it was stopped in the same round the clash occured....

    Thought I'd share.

    Sky Sports | Boxing | News | Brawley takes Prizefighter title
    Yes but they stopped the fight and immediately gave the other guy the tko win.

    So is that what your arguing, that it should be Khan bt Barrera TKO Rnd 1 rather than Khan bt Barrera UD?

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Anyone watch Prizefighter last night? The one where a guy got stopped by a cut on the forehead following an accidental headbutt? The boxer wanted to continue but it was stopped in the same round the clash occured....

    Thought I'd share.

    Sky Sports | Boxing | News | Brawley takes Prizefighter title
    Yes but they stopped the fight and immediately gave the other guy the tko win.

    So is that what your arguing, that it should be Khan bt Barrera TKO Rnd 1 rather than Khan bt Barrera UD?
    BBBoC rules in place for Prizefighter....you don't get away with trying to play that card.

    Also rules have been updated to allow the prizefighter format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Anyone watch Prizefighter last night? The one where a guy got stopped by a cut on the forehead following an accidental headbutt? The boxer wanted to continue but it was stopped in the same round the clash occured....

    Thought I'd share.

    Sky Sports | Boxing | News | Brawley takes Prizefighter title
    Yes but they stopped the fight and immediately gave the other guy the tko win.

    So is that what your arguing, that it should be Khan bt Barrera TKO Rnd 1 rather than Khan bt Barrera UD?
    BBBoC rules in place for Prizefighter....you don't get away with trying to play that card.

    Also rules have been updated to allow the prizefighter format.
    At the end of the day Missy if it truly was an injustice and the referee and doctor violated the rules then there will be an appeal and the result will be overturned and judged a No Contest just like the Rahman Toney fight.

    We'll have to wait and see but as far I know Barrera's team havn't even tried to put in an appeal yet?

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    probably thinking 'why bother?'

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Yes, I cannot see the decision being overturned now. It doesn't excuse what happened though, Barrera was treated shoddily and I don't think there are many that would argue that he wasn't. I also don't think there are many rational people that can truly laud Khan's win as carrying meaning or significance. The British tabloid media doesn't count as rational, does it now?

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    oh I dunno miles, 10,000 single parent immigrant baby snatching drug peddling paedo's are smarming the country everyday

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    oh I dunno miles, 10,000 single parent immigrant baby snatching drug peddling paedo's are smarming the country everyday

    In my rushed efforts to become the Daily Mail/Sun I've actually started spelling like the Guardian!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    oh I dunno miles, 10,000 single parent immigrant baby snatching drug peddling paedo's are smarming the country everyday

    In my rushed efforts to become the Daily Mail/Sun I've actually started spelling like the Guardian!

    and if you get that gag it means you're middle class

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    oh I dunno miles, 10,000 single parent immigrant baby snatching drug peddling paedo's are smarming the country everyday
    what's smarming??

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    Default Re: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    oh I dunno miles, 10,000 single parent immigrant baby snatching drug peddling paedo's are smarming the country everyday
    what's smarming??
    see above posts.


    Should be swarming....m's are like w's aren't they?

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