Hopkins and Over-40 Greats

**Spicoli** · 10-16-2008 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

Virgil hill carried on late and obtained yet another belt when he was 42

True, but there is a world of difference between beating Valery Brudov and beating Kelly Pavlik (or Tarver or Wright for that matter).

No doubt about that....ecspecially The beating Pavlik (?) part

**GeorgeForeman8** · 03-24-2009 10:26 PM

Foreman fought Evander Holyfield, Michael Moorer, Lou Savarese, Tommy Morrison, Axel Shultz, Shannon Briggs, Pierre Coetzer, Bert Cooper, and Alex Stewart all past the age of 40 which is alot more impressive than Hopkins beating Pavlik, a fighter who is impressive but was moving up in weight to fight Hopkins.

**Spicoli** · 03-25-2009 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by GeorgeForeman8

Foreman fought Evander Holyfield, Michael Moorer, Lou Savarese, Tommy Morrison, Axel Shultz, Shannon Briggs, Pierre Coetzer, Bert Cooper, and Alex Stewart all past the age of 40 which is alot more impressive than Hopkins beating Pavlik, a fighter who is impressive but was moving up in weight to fight Hopkins.

Foremans face looked like a month old battered & soggy pumpkin at the end of the Stewart fight.And Shultz was just plain looted and robbed by the judges.....of course,Foreman can claim the same at the hands of Briggs I believe.

**GeorgeForeman8** · 03-25-2009 02:01 PM

I was giving you names of people he fought after 40 not saying if he wont or not. He still got in the ring with guys waaaaay younger than himself and either won or still held his own.

**Spicoli** · 03-25-2009 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by GeorgeForeman8

I was giving you names of people he fought after 40 not saying if he wont or not. He still got in the ring with guys waaaaay younger than himself and either won or still held his own.

I hear ya .I actually enjoyed watching his comeback,perked my interest in the sport a bit.It had sort of a circus feel,and he was afforded some softies big time but to take that long of a hiatus and comeback for an entire 'second' career was solid stuff.He was a master marketer,knew how to maximize his appeal and make the headlines....frigging showman with a telephone poll jab.A bit of the joking stopped after he withstood Holyfield and really gave a good accounting of himself.He was gunning for Tyson in a HUGE way....as good a buisness man as he was a power hitter.I actually think he stood a very good chance at beating Tyson in his comeback as opposed to a 'fantasy' fight and the younger do or die version.He was so much more focused,mentally extremely balanced.We'll never know.......Welcome to the Forum