This is beyond reproach... To serve and protect my ass, this officer should be fired

[Hunter]

The cop should be fired. If he thought they were dangerous criminals why did he let the three others run into the hospital. He didnt call for backup? He knew Ryan was telling the truth and chose to be an ass.

He should have took his license and walked with him into the hospital and once he verified with a nurse let him go.

[Andre]

They are showing this on CNN right now.They'd have to shoot me,tazz me or gaffle me.What an absolute display of idiocy.I think its a case of stereo typing and predjudice...hope that dick head can live with himself!!He was in no threat and the cop should have put his humanity and situational judgment ahead of the badge and bureaucracy.

They are taught what to think and how to react.
Uniformed cops take the cake through lack of thought.
Here last month they shot and killed a young man of 15 who was upset over his dads death and had a knife and wouldnt put it down.
Fuckwits didnt think to shoot him in the legs did they? No our targets dont have legs .Thats how dumb and brainwashed they become.
Then you get one of them on the camera reading out the offical statment in monotone.
You can be knocked back from the uniformed job by having a too high IQ you know, they steer you away from it.

[Tilt A Whirl]

Whilst I agree the cop sounded like a total tosser on the video I'm not sure exactly what else he could have done.

I mean he ran a red light and then didn't stop for a police car. A policeman isn't psychic and his duty is to stop those who go through a red light, especially as it was in the early hours of the morning.

He clearly had to follow the car to the hospital and talk to the driver, that is his job.

And even when somebody says 'my mum is dying' what is a cop supposed to do. If you get stopped for speeding or jumping a light and a cop pulls you over you and you say 'Look someone I care about is dying' do you expect them to instantly say 'No problem go go!' and let them dash off straight away?

Maybe some cops might but others might need more convincing. Look at it another way, if a couple smuggling drugs or wanted for a criminal offence, or maybe had an abducted child in the back was stopped and they said 'Look my mother is dying' and the cop just let them go without checking for insurance, name etc and then it turned out they were criminals he let get away or they killed someone under the influence the cop would get it in the neck for that too.

It's just a horrible situation where a cop happened to observe a traffic violation and his job meant he had to investigate although in this instance the running of a light was justified.

I definitely think the cop could have handled it better but even then I imagine traffic cops listen to a string of excuses from countless drivers that they stop every single day and so are hardened to any kind of emotional pleading.

If you can detain him in the parking lot that long,you can follow him up to the hospital room and detain him there,he was just saying "Respect mah athoritah"

[Kev]

The cop should be fired. If he thought they were dangerous criminals why did he let the three others run into the hospital. He didnt call for backup? He knew Ryan was telling the truth and chose to be an ass.

He should have took his license and walked with him into the hospital and once he verified with a nurse let him go.

He did call for backup and he didn't let the others run into the hospital they just ran in when he told them to stay where they were, did you even watch the video?

The cop didn't know they were telling the truth, all he had to go by was a driver jumped a red light in plain view of the police then refused to stop when flashed to pull over.

I'm sorry but in that situation if you are a cop your immediate reaction is that this is a potential hostile situation with an uncooperative lawbreaking driver who may be dangerous.

Just driving to the hospital and then leaping out of the car yelling someone is dying and trying to run off doesn't mean the cop can just believe everything you say.

How can you in all seriousness based on one single news report claim definiteively that you enough information and judgement to be able to sack a man you have never met and do not know anything about?

How is that consistent. You are doing EXACTLY the same as what the cop did.

The cop saw a guy run a light, he saw a car blatently refuse to pull over for him and continue driving and so he assumed the driver was a hostile, uncooperative and potentially dangerous risk.

He jumped to a conclusion based on the evidence he had at that time EXACTLY the way you are doing now.

Can you not see the hyprocrisy in this?

How can say the police offer should have used his judegment in that moment and tried to see things from a different perspective when you are incapable of the same thing?

And remember this whole 'detaining' incident took less than 2 minutes!

The cop was doing his job, he had no way of knowing when he confronted them that their mother was dying and even after they told him he had no way of knowing that that was true.

He reacted in the moment according to the information he had and got it wrong. Yes he could have handled it better but he's only human and didn't have the information we now have at that time.

[Tilt A Whirl]

The cop should be fired. If he thought they were dangerous criminals why did he let the three others run into the hospital. He didnt call for backup? He knew Ryan was telling the truth and chose to be an ass.

He should have took his license and walked with him into the hospital and once he verified with a nurse let him go.

He did call for backup and he didn't let the others run into the hospital they just ran in when he told them to stay where they were, did you even watch the video?

The cop didn't know they were telling the truth, all he had to go by was a driver jumped a red light in plain view of the police then refused to stop when flashed to pull over.

I'm sorry but in that situation if you are a cop your immediate reaction is that this is a potential hostile situation with an uncooperative lawbreaking driver who may be dangerous.

Just driving to the hospital and then leaping out of the car yelling someone is dying and trying to run off doesn't mean the cop can just believe everything you say.

How can you in all seriousness based on one single news report claim definiteively that you enough information and judgement to be able to sack a man you have never met and do not know anything about?

How is that consistent. You are doing EXACTLY the same as what the cop did.

The cop saw a guy run a light, he saw a car blatently refuse to pull over for him and continue driving and so he assumed the driver was a hostile, uncooperative and potentially dangerous risk.

He jumped to a conclusion based on the evidence he had at that time EXACTLY the way you are doing now.

Can you not see the hyprocrisy in this?

How can say the police offer should have used his judegment in that moment and tried to see things from a different perspective when you are incapable of the same thing?

And remember this whole 'detaining' incident took less than 2 minutes!

The cop was doing his job, he had no way of knowing when he confronted them that their mother was dying and even after they told him he had no way of knowing that that was true.

He reacted in the moment according to the information he had and got it wrong. Yes he could have handled it better but he's only human and didn't have the information we now have at that time.

The backup asked for Moats to be let go

[Kev]

I've just read in an article that he actually detained him for 13 minutes, if that's the case then its clearly out of order, the video I watched of the incident lasted only 1 minute and 54 seconds, maybe that was edited?

[Hunter]

The cop should be fired. If he thought they were dangerous criminals why did he let the three others run into the hospital. He didnt call for backup? He knew Ryan was telling the truth and chose to be an ass.

He should have took his license and walked with him into the hospital and once he verified with a nurse let him go.

He did call for backup and he didn't let the others run into the hospital they just ran in when he told them to stay where they were, did you even watch the video?

The cop didn't know they were telling the truth, all he had to go by was a driver jumped a red light in plain view of the police then refused to stop when flashed to pull over.

I'm sorry but in that situation if you are a cop your immediate reaction is that this is a potential hostile situation with an uncooperative lawbreaking driver who may be dangerous.

Just driving to the hospital and then leaping out of the car yelling someone is dying and trying to run off doesn't mean the cop can just believe everything you say.

How can you in all seriousness based on one single news report claim definiteively that you enough information and judgement to be able to sack a man you have never met and do not know anything about?

How is that consistent. You are doing EXACTLY the same as what the cop did.

The cop saw a guy run a light, he saw a car blatently refuse to pull over for him and continue driving and so he assumed the driver was a hostile, uncooperative and potentially dangerous risk.

He jumped to a conclusion based on the evidence he had at that time EXACTLY the way you are doing now.

Can you not see the hyprocrisy in this?

How can say the police offer should have used his judegment in that moment and tried to see things from a different perspective when you are incapable of the same thing?

And remember this whole 'detaining' incident took less than 2 minutes!

The cop was doing his job, he had no way of knowing when he confronted them that their mother was dying and even after they told him he had no way of knowing that that was true.

He reacted in the moment according to the information he had and got it wrong. Yes he could have handled it better but he's only human and didn't have the information we now have at that time.

I did watch the video, have you ever seen how officers react when they are making a felony stop? If he seriously thought Moats was fleeing and they were criminals he would have held them at gun point and put moats in handcuffs right away.

Either he thought they were dangerous criminals or he didnt, if he didnt (which is obvious) he should have let them go based on the circumstances.

The cop is an incompetent moron and should be canned.
You need to obtain all the facts.

[Hunter]

I've just read in an article that he actually detained him for 13 minutes, if that's the case then its clearly out of order, the video I watched of the incident lasted only 1 minute and 54 seconds, maybe that was edited?

You are asking me if I watched the video and it is apparent you havent. The moron detained Moats for 15 minutes. Two nurses and a Plano cop all talked to the "cop" and he still wouldnt let him go. The first nurse talked to the cop after 6 minutes and confirmed his mother in law was dying and he kept Moats another 9 minutes.

[Kev]

I've just read in an article that he actually detained him for 13 minutes, if that's the case then its clearly out of order, the video I watched of the incident lasted only 1 minute and 54 seconds, maybe that was edited?

You are asking me if I watched the video and it is apparent you havent. The moron detained Moats for 15 minutes. Two nurses and a Plano cop all talked to the "cop" and he still wouldnt let him go. The first nurse talked to the cop after 6 minutes and confirmed his mother in law was dying and he kept Moats another 9 minutes.

I watched the video link that was provided that lasted only 2 minutes. The drawing of the gun, the nurse coming out and the long delay wern't in that video that I saw.

[Tilt A Whirl]

Think of how many real criminals got away because Johnny Law was detaining an NFL Running Back while his mother in law was dying for running a red light.

[Tilt A Whirl]

Wait it gets better,the light was stuck on red because of a power outage

[sonny78]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
They are showing this on CNN right now.They'd have to shoot me,tazz me or gaffle me.What an absolute display of idiocy.I think its a case of stereo typing and predjudice...hope that dick head can live with himself!!He was in no threat and the cop should have put his humanity and situational judgment ahead of the badge and bureaucracy.
They are taught what to think and how to react.
Uniformed cops take the cake through lack of thought.
Here last month they shot and killed a young man of 15 who was upset over his dads death and had a knife and wouldnt put it down.
Fuckwits didnt think to shoot him in the legs did they? No our targets dont have legs .Thats how dumb and brainwashed they become.
Then you get one of them on the camera reading out the offical statment in monotone.
You can be knocked back from the uniformed job by having a too high IQ you know, they steer you away from it.

The reason they don't shoot in the legs is because there are trained to aim for the largest body mass, the torso to reduce the chance off missing and killing someone with a ricochet

[sonny78]

Wait it gets better,the light was stuck on red because of a power outage

Bollocks, If there was a power outage the light would be off not stuck on red

Think of how many real criminals got away because Johnny Law was detaining an NFL Running Back while his mother in law was dying for running a red light.

If someone runs a red light in front of a copper how does he know he is not a criminal? he finds out by pulling him over

[Tilt A Whirl]

Wait it gets better,the light was stuck on red because of a power outage

Bollocks, If there was a power outage the light would be off not stuck on red

Think of how many real criminals got away because Johnny Law was detaining an NFL Running Back while his mother in law was dying for running a red light.

If someone runs a red light in front of a copper how does he know he is not a criminal? he finds out by pulling him over

No,if there's an outage,it resets to a blinking red,the law is,you treat it like a stop sign,which is what he did

[Kev]

Just out of interest does anyone else feel this only became national news because of the celebrity status of Moats and the fact that he was black?

If it was an ordinary white Joe Blow this wouldn't even have made the local news.

Let's say this had happened to Lyle or Trainer Monkey. Do you think CCN would have been all over it? Do you think it would even be covered at all?