This is beyond reproach... To serve and protect my ass, this officer should be fired

[CFH]

Just out of interest does anyone else feel this only became national news because of the celebrity status of Moats and the fact that he was black?

If it was an ordinary white Joe Blow this wouldn't even have made the local news.

Let's say this had happened to Lyle or Trainer Monkey. Do you think CCN would have been all over it? Do you think it would even be covered at all?

Are you claiming that the media played up the issue of race in order to sensationalize a story? I just don't believe it!

[JazMerkin]

Just out of interest does anyone else feel this only became national news because of the celebrity status of Moats and the fact that he was black?

If it was an ordinary white Joe Blow this wouldn't even have made the local news.

Let's say this had happened to Lyle or Trainer Monkey. Do you think CCN would have been all over it? Do you think it would even be covered at all?

I think the celebrity status is what makes the difference, although its the kind of story that could be big anyway as it plays on people's emotions at being denied time with their family before they pass away. I think if it happened to an ordinary white Joe Blow it would make bigger news than if it happened to an ordinary black guy. That's just based on how the media works. I think if it happened to Ryan Moats or Dan Orlovsky the news coverage wouldn't change, simply down to their status as NFL players

[Kev]

Just out of interest does anyone else feel this only became national news because of the celebrity status of Moats and the fact that he was black?

If it was an ordinary white Joe Blow this wouldn't even have made the local news.

Let's say this had happened to Lyle or Trainer Monkey. Do you think CCN would have been all over it? Do you think it would even be covered at all?

I think the celebrity status is what makes the difference, although its the kind of story that could be big anyway as it plays on people's emotions at being denied time with their family before they pass away. I think if it happened to an ordinary white Joe Blow it would make bigger news than if it happened to an ordinary black guy. That's just based on how the media works. I think if it happened to Ryan Moats or Dan Orlovsky the news coverage wouldn't change, simply down to their status as NFL players

Seriously? I reckon this kind of thing probably happens all the time only the ordinary guy wouldn't get let off of his ticket after complaining.

I don't believe this would be the first time something like this would have happened, it probably goes on all the time in countries all over the world.

[Tilt A Whirl]

Just out of interest does anyone else feel this only became national news because of the celebrity status of Moats and the fact that he was black?

If it was an ordinary white Joe Blow this wouldn't even have made the local news.

Let's say this had happened to Lyle or Trainer Monkey. Do you think CCN would have been all over it? Do you think it would even be covered at all?

Of course its because he's an NFL running back,"Matchmaker/Trainer gets jacked up by the police" is not exactly national news.
Now if one of my fighters got jacked up,that at least might make the local news. But even though Ive got some juice in the sport of boxing,me getting jacked up by the po po's isnt even making the newspaper byline

[Kev]

Just out of interest does anyone else feel this only became national news because of the celebrity status of Moats and the fact that he was black?

If it was an ordinary white Joe Blow this wouldn't even have made the local news.

Let's say this had happened to Lyle or Trainer Monkey. Do you think CCN would have been all over it? Do you think it would even be covered at all?

Of course its because he's an NFL running back,"Matchmaker/Trainer gets jacked up by the police" is not exactly national news.
Now if one of my fighters got jacked up,that at least might make the local news. But even though Ive got some juice in the sport of boxing,me getting jacked up by the po po's isnt even making the newspaper byline

haha thanks for making me laugh again Monkey in thinking the papers would describe you as a matchmaker/trainer. Do you think they would also say former punk star and caving expert as well?

[JazMerkin]

Just out of interest does anyone else feel this only became national news because of the celebrity status of Moats and the fact that he was black?

If it was an ordinary white Joe Blow this wouldn't even have made the local news.

Let's say this had happened to Lyle or Trainer Monkey. Do you think CCN would have been all over it? Do you think it would even be covered at all?

I think the celebrity status is what makes the difference, although its the kind of story that could be big anyway as it plays on people's emotions at being denied time with their family before they pass away. I think if it happened to an ordinary white Joe Blow it would make bigger news than if it happened to an ordinary black guy. That's just based on how the media works. I think if it happened to Ryan Moats or Dan Orlovsky the news coverage wouldn't change, simply down to their status as NFL players

Seriously? I reckon this kind of thing probably happens all the time only the ordinary guy wouldn't get let off of his ticket after complaining.

I don't believe this would be the first time something like this would have happened, it probably goes on all the time in countries all over the world.

If the 'victim' was smart enough to go to the papers it could become a good story. It would at least get a day or two of media coverage, just depends whether it snowballs or not. I agree it probably does go on, but the fact it happened to a famous football player meant it was more high-profile. Also the race thing is actually unimportant. You're right if it happened to Lyle it wouldn't register, but equally if it happened to me it would DEFINITELY not register, even in spite of the facts I have contacts in the media. In the words of Chris Rock, "this shit ain't about race, it's about fame".

[Kev]

I think the celebrity status is what makes the difference, although its the kind of story that could be big anyway as it plays on people's emotions at being denied time with their family before they pass away. I think if it happened to an ordinary white Joe Blow it would make bigger news than if it happened to an ordinary black guy. That's just based on how the media works. I think if it happened to Ryan Moats or Dan Orlovsky the news coverage wouldn't change, simply down to their status as NFL players

Seriously? I reckon this kind of thing probably happens all the time only the ordinary guy wouldn't get let off of his ticket after complaining.

I don't believe this would be the first time something like this would have happened, it probably goes on all the time in countries all over the world.

If the 'victim' was smart enough to go to the papers it could become a good story. It would at least get a day or two of media coverage, just depends whether it snowballs or not. I agree it probably does go on, but the fact it happened to a famous football player meant it was more high-profile. Also the race thing is actually unimportant. You're right if it happened to Lyle it wouldn't register, but equally if it happened to me it would DEFINITELY not register, even in spite of the facts I have contacts in the media. In the words of Chris Rock, "this shit ain't about race, it's about fame".

Yeah you're probably right, its just if it was a white guy there wouldn't be the assumption that the cop was acting a dick becuase of race. The colour of the participants surely plays a role in the intereperation of a story in the media and amongst the public.

I genuinely believe if this had happened to an ordinary person the police would be defending their officer and challenging the story but becuase it happened to a celeberity and significantly a black celebrity they are hanging their officer out to dry and trying to distance themselves from the shitstorm as much as possible.

[JazMerkin]

Seriously? I reckon this kind of thing probably happens all the time only the ordinary guy wouldn't get let off of his ticket after complaining.

I don't believe this would be the first time something like this would have happened, it probably goes on all the time in countries all over the world.

If the 'victim' was smart enough to go to the papers it could become a good story. It would at least get a day or two of media coverage, just depends whether it snowballs or not. I agree it probably does go on, but the fact it happened to a famous football player meant it was more high-profile. Also the race thing is actually unimportant. You're right if it happened to Lyle it wouldn't register, but equally if it happened to me it would DEFINITELY not register, even in spite of the facts I have contacts in the media. In the words of Chris Rock, "this shit ain't about race, it's about fame".

Yeah you're probably right, its just if it was a white guy there wouldn't be the assumption that the cop was acting a dick becuase of race. The colour of the participants surely plays a role in the intereperation of a story in the media and amongst the public.

I genuinely believe if this had happened to an ordinary person the police would be defending their officer and challenging the story but becuase it happened to a celeberity and significantly a black celebrity they are hanging their officer out to dry and trying to distance themselves from the shitstorm as much as possible.

Nope, its because they're learning how to read the public, and they've realized 90% of the public will think that officer was out of order & scumbag. If the story broke & it was about an average joe, they would do the same. Its all about the reaction of the majority, and most of the views on here represent how most people would feel in general.

[:::PSL:::]

Tax payers money at work.

[Hunter]

Moats handled the situation with class during the altercation....Not once did he mention he was an NFL player.......

He was upset but not out of control and still showed respect despite the situation.

I think this would have been in the press regardless of who it was.

[armin]

Cop did what he was supposed to do to an extent but also acted like a prick, the nurses came out of the hospital to plead with the cop to let the family go inside because the mum was near death, he wouldn't. This is where it's jacked up he knew 100% the story about dying mum wasn't made up and failed to show compassion, let the family go upstairs and see their mum, you got all the info you need to write them a ticket and mail it to em...just really shitty judgement on the cops part. I know cops have a hard job so I don't think the guy should be crucified for the situation but definitely needs some sensitivity training or just a good ol dose of common sense

[Andre]

Unfortunatley about 68% of them need to pack skips with old cardboard and newspapers as their 'to serve' level suits that job requirement to a tee.

You cant train someone to be bright or compassionate. Intelligence is too broad a word to even use when dealing with them in their group mentality state.
Alone and in public some are quite ok with high IQ's but they soon get moved to higher tasks out of uniform once they are found out .

[Kev]

If the 'victim' was smart enough to go to the papers it could become a good story. It would at least get a day or two of media coverage, just depends whether it snowballs or not. I agree it probably does go on, but the fact it happened to a famous football player meant it was more high-profile. Also the race thing is actually unimportant. You're right if it happened to Lyle it wouldn't register, but equally if it happened to me it would DEFINITELY not register, even in spite of the facts I have contacts in the media. In the words of Chris Rock, "this shit ain't about race, it's about fame".

Yeah you're probably right, its just if it was a white guy there wouldn't be the assumption that the cop was acting a dick becuase of race. The colour of the participants surely plays a role in the intereperation of a story in the media and amongst the public.

I genuinely believe if this had happened to an ordinary person the police would be defending their officer and challenging the story but becuase it happened to a celeberity and significantly a black celebrity they are hanging their officer out to dry and trying to distance themselves from the shitstorm as much as possible.

Nope, its because they're learning how to read the public, and they've realized 90% of the public will think that officer was out of order & scumbag. If the story broke & it was about an average joe, they would do the same. Its all about the reaction of the majority, and most of the views on here represent how most people would feel in general.

If he wasn't famous the story wouldn't have broke though.

[match]

Yeah you're probably right, its just if it was a white guy there wouldn't be the assumption that the cop was acting a dick becuase of race. The colour of the participants surely plays a role in the intereperation of a story in the media and amongst the public.

I genuinely believe if this had happened to an ordinary person the police would be defending their officer and challenging the story but becuase it happened to a celeberity and significantly a black celebrity they are hanging their officer out to dry and trying to distance themselves from the shitstorm as much as possible.

Nope, its because they're learning how to read the public, and they've realized 90% of the public will think that officer was out of order & scumbag. If the story broke & it was about an average joe, they would do the same. Its all about the reaction of the majority, and most of the views on here represent how most people would feel in general.

If he wasn't famous the story wouldn't have broke though.

Yes it would have. I can't believe there are people on this board that think people being prevented from seeing a dying loved one because of a cop is an everyday occurance

[Kev]

Nope, its because they're learning how to read the public, and they've realized 90% of the public will think that officer was out of order & scumbag. If the story broke & it was about an average joe, they would do the same. Its all about the reaction of the majority, and most of the views on here represent how most people would feel in general.

If he wasn't famous the story wouldn't have broke though.

Yes it would have. I can't believe there are people on this board that think people being prevented from seeing a dying loved one because of a cop is an everyday occurance

Mate you don't have a clue. We have a man in the uk who had Downs Syndrome and had a stroke so went into hospital. He died due to them not feeding him. He went 26 days without food! This was in 2005 and its only made the news last week as a result of a report into 5 other deaths through neglect.

One hospital in Staffordshire has now hit the headlines because over a three year period an estimated 400-1200 people died through improper care!

None of those individual cases got any press on their own it took literally a catalog of complaints and gross incompentences before any of it made the news.

An ordinary person being inconvenienced just doesn't make headlines.

It was a huge story because Moates is a black celebrity. If he was just an ordinary working class guy, say a 23 year old McDonalds worker it wouldn't have made the local paper.