Hatton VS Cotto

[ono]

Cotto would put a terrible beating on Hatton, it might be competitive early on, but I have no doubt that Cotto would stop Hatton in the mid/late rounds.

I have no reason to believe that Hatton has the power or the style to trouble Cotto (unless the fight is below 147, then the weight-drain will badly effect Cotto's punch resistance).

Urango was hurting Hatton to the body, imagine what Cotto would do to him.

To be fair to Hatton he was ill on fight night against Urango. He had a chest infection the week of the fight. There was an interview a few days before the fight and he looked and sounded like shit. IMO he shouldn't have fought, plus Urango is a decent puncher.

At 147 there would be no point but at a catch weight i think it's 50-50. At 140 i think the weight drain and Hatton's work-rate would be far too big a hurdle for Cotto to overcome.

[CFH]

Cotto would put a terrible beating on Hatton, it might be competitive early on, but I have no doubt that Cotto would stop Hatton in the mid/late rounds.

I have no reason to believe that Hatton has the power or the style to trouble Cotto (unless the fight is below 147, then the weight-drain will badly effect Cotto's punch resistance).

Urango was hurting Hatton to the body, imagine what Cotto would do to him.

To be fair to Hatton he was ill on fight night against Urango. He had a chest infection the week of the fight. There was an interview a few days before the fight and he looked and sounded like shit. IMO he shouldn't have fought, plus Urango is a decent puncher.

At 147 there would be no point but at a catch weight i think it's 50-50. At 140 i think the weight drain and Hatton's work-rate would be far too big a hurdle for Cotto to overcome.

I'd forgotten that Hatton was ill, but Urango was still buckling him with body shots, and I'd wager that Cotto hits significantly harder than Urango. Collazo also had him badly hurt at 147. I'm a Hatton fan, but I don't see any way he beats Cotto at 147.

Is there any real point in this fight occurring at 140? If Hatton needs Cotto to be badly weight-drained for him to have a chance, what's that point? It would be absolutely pathetic IMO and I would hope that pundits and fans would heap scathing criticism on the fight for that reason. Why not fight at 147 and only let Cotto throw with his left hand or something like that, he'd be just as handicapped as he would be fighting at 140.

[Gandalf]

Cotto would put a terrible beating on Hatton, it might be competitive early on, but I have no doubt that Cotto would stop Hatton in the mid/late rounds.

I have no reason to believe that Hatton has the power or the style to trouble Cotto (unless the fight is below 147, then the weight-drain will badly effect Cotto's punch resistance).

Urango was hurting Hatton to the body, imagine what Cotto would do to him.

To be fair to Hatton he was ill on fight night against Urango. He had a chest infection the week of the fight. There was an interview a few days before the fight and he looked and sounded like shit. IMO he shouldn't have fought, plus Urango is a decent puncher.

At 147 there would be no point but at a catch weight i think it's 50-50. At 140 i think the weight drain and Hatton's work-rate would be far too big a hurdle for Cotto to overcome.

I'd forgotten that Hatton was ill, but Urango was still buckling him with body shots, and I'd wager that Cotto hits significantly harder than Urango. Collazo also had him badly hurt at 147. I'm a Hatton fan, but I don't see any way he beats Cotto at 147.

Is there any real point in this fight occurring at 140? If Hatton needs Cotto to be badly weight-drained for him to have a chance, what's that point? It would be absolutely pathetic IMO and I would hope that pundits and fans would heap scathing criticism on the fight for that reason. Why not fight at 147 and only let Cotto throw with his left hand or something like that, he'd be just as handicapped as he would be fighting at 140.

Let's see how Hatton looks in his next couple of fights. I've a feeling the Cotto fight won't be so distant.

[littlebif]

Cotto would put a terrible beating on Hatton, it might be competitive early on, but I have no doubt that Cotto would stop Hatton in the mid/late rounds.

I have no reason to believe that Hatton has the power or the style to trouble Cotto (unless the fight is below 147, then the weight-drain will badly effect Cotto's punch resistance).

Urango was hurting Hatton to the body, imagine what Cotto would do to him.

To be fair to Hatton he was ill on fight night against Urango. He had a chest infection the week of the fight. There was an interview a few days before the fight and he looked and sounded like shit. IMO he shouldn't have fought, plus Urango is a decent puncher.

At 147 there would be no point but at a catch weight i think it's 50-50. At 140 i think the weight drain and Hatton's work-rate would be far too big a hurdle for Cotto to overcome.

I'd forgotten that Hatton was ill, but Urango was still buckling him with body shots, and I'd wager that Cotto hits significantly harder than Urango. Collazo also had him badly hurt at 147. I'm a Hatton fan, but I don't see any way he beats Cotto at 147.

Is there any real point in this fight occurring at 140? If Hatton needs Cotto to be badly weight-drained for him to have a chance, what's that point? It would be absolutely pathetic IMO and I would hope that pundits and fans would heap scathing criticism on the fight for that reason. Why not fight at 147 and only let Cotto throw with his left hand or something like that, he'd be just as handicapped as he would be fighting at 140.

You say Hatton should fight at 147 and Cotto should'nt go to 140.Hatton isnt big enough for 147 so Cotto would be beating up a Light welter would'nt he,Cotto is to big for lightwelter,simple if it happens it should be on a level playing ground do it at a catch weight 143/144.

[CFH]

To be fair to Hatton he was ill on fight night against Urango. He had a chest infection the week of the fight. There was an interview a few days before the fight and he looked and sounded like shit. IMO he shouldn't have fought, plus Urango is a decent puncher.

At 147 there would be no point but at a catch weight i think it's 50-50. At 140 i think the weight drain and Hatton's work-rate would be far too big a hurdle for Cotto to overcome.

I'd forgotten that Hatton was ill, but Urango was still buckling him with body shots, and I'd wager that Cotto hits significantly harder than Urango. Collazo also had him badly hurt at 147. I'm a Hatton fan, but I don't see any way he beats Cotto at 147.

Is there any real point in this fight occurring at 140? If Hatton needs Cotto to be badly weight-drained for him to have a chance, what's that point? It would be absolutely pathetic IMO and I would hope that pundits and fans would heap scathing criticism on the fight for that reason. Why not fight at 147 and only let Cotto throw with his left hand or something like that, he'd be just as handicapped as he would be fighting at 140.

You say Hatton should fight at 147 and Cotto should'nt go to 140.Hatton isnt big enough for 147 so Cotto would be beating up a Light welter would'nt he,Cotto is to big for lightwelter,simple if it happens it should be on a level playing ground do it at a catch weight 143/144.

I don't think Hatton should go to 147 to fight anybody, least of all Cotto. However, making Cotto come down to a weight where he was so weight-drained that Paulie Malignaggi was wobbling him is ludicrous.

I am of the opinion that this fight shouldn't happen at all, but if it does, it should definitely take place at, or very near, 147. I don't see why Hatton should get any credit if he beats a weight-drained and ineffective version of Cotto. Why should Cotto have to come down in weight? While I have no doubt that a fight with Hatton (provided he doesn't get absolutely destroyed by Pac) would make a lot of money, Cotto is a huge draw by himself and there are some big fights to be made at 147 that, in my opinion, negate the benefits of hurting his body and perhaps his career by dropping weight to an unsafe level to take on a very good opponent.

[the_PRODIGY]

To be fair to Hatton he was ill on fight night against Urango. He had a chest infection the week of the fight. There was an interview a few days before the fight and he looked and sounded like shit. IMO he shouldn't have fought, plus Urango is a decent puncher.

At 147 there would be no point but at a catch weight i think it's 50-50. At 140 i think the weight drain and Hatton's work-rate would be far too big a hurdle for Cotto to overcome.

I'd forgotten that Hatton was ill, but Urango was still buckling him with body shots, and I'd wager that Cotto hits significantly harder than Urango. Collazo also had him badly hurt at 147. I'm a Hatton fan, but I don't see any way he beats Cotto at 147.

Is there any real point in this fight occurring at 140? If Hatton needs Cotto to be badly weight-drained for him to have a chance, what's that point? It would be absolutely pathetic IMO and I would hope that pundits and fans would heap scathing criticism on the fight for that reason. Why not fight at 147 and only let Cotto throw with his left hand or something like that, he'd be just as handicapped as he would be fighting at 140.

You say Hatton should fight at 147 and Cotto should'nt go to 140.Hatton isnt big enough for 147 so Cotto would be beating up a Light welter would'nt he,Cotto is to big for lightwelter,simple if it happens it should be on a level playing ground do it at a catch weight 143/144.

He doesn't necessarily have to weigh 147. Again like what I said he has a margin of 7 pounds to work with. That's why there is no rule that a fighter should weigh exactly as what the limit says. It all evens out at fight night anyway. I think the problem with Ricky is that when the weight is easier to reach he would slack off. He looks sloppy, he's not that sharp.

Why not train as hard as he does at 140? and I thin he should chow on 7 pounds of cheesesteak before the weigh in to shut the 'narrow minded' fans who would surely say he overtrained or he came in too small.

[TitoFan]

Cotto would put a terrible beating on Hatton, it might be competitive early on, but I have no doubt that Cotto would stop Hatton in the mid/late rounds.

I have no reason to believe that Hatton has the power or the style to trouble Cotto (unless the fight is below 147, then the weight-drain will badly effect Cotto's punch resistance).

Urango was hurting Hatton to the body, imagine what Cotto would do to him.

To be fair to Hatton he was ill on fight night against Urango. He had a chest infection the week of the fight. There was an interview a few days before the fight and he looked and sounded like shit. IMO he shouldn't have fought, plus Urango is a decent puncher.

At 147 there would be no point but at a catch weight i think it's 50-50. At 140 i think the weight drain and Hatton's work-rate would be far too big a hurdle for Cotto to overcome.

I'd forgotten that Hatton was ill, but Urango was still buckling him with body shots, and I'd wager that Cotto hits significantly harder than Urango. Collazo also had him badly hurt at 147. I'm a Hatton fan, but I don't see any way he beats Cotto at 147.

Is there any real point in this fight occurring at 140? If Hatton needs Cotto to be badly weight-drained for him to have a chance, what's that point? It would be absolutely pathetic IMO and I would hope that pundits and fans would heap scathing criticism on the fight for that reason. Why not fight at 147 and only let Cotto throw with his left hand or something like that, he'd be just as handicapped as he would be fighting at 140.

My sentiments exactly. A shame that there isn't a weight where it would be competitive, since Ricky has shown he does not belong in the same ring with Cotto at 147... but in boxing 7 pounds is a world of difference.

[the_PRODIGY]

What is with these weight limits and catch weights? I just don't get it when people say Hatton is not the same at welterweight. Maybe he is not as sharp at 147 but he doesn't have to weigh exactly at 147. If the diet and training of making 140 makes him the best he can possibly then why not train like a junior welter. If he's a couple of pounds over 140 he'll still be a welterweight. In that way he will be at his best shape during weigh-ins and at fight night the weight would be pretty much the same with Cotto as Ricky gains 13-15 lbs.

Or you folks think the other way around? do you think this welters are too big for Ricky that's why they have to shed some muscles to make it a more even fight? That's just not right..I think it's just an unfair and unreasonable thing to do.,Ricky has a 7 pound margin to work with. If he wants he can drop all the way down to 140 and eat a box of pizza before the weigh-in cuz he's gonna feast himself with food after it anyway. But for Cotto to starve himself is just unfair. He wouldn't be the same fighter.

I think the best Ricky against best Cotto is a helluva match. Both has KO power but I give Cotto the advantage because he has a good jab to keep Ricky at bay.

[RP33]

What is with these weight limits and catch weights? I just don't get it when people say Hatton is not the same at welterweight. Maybe he is not as sharp at 147 but he doesn't have to weigh exactly at 147. If the diet and training of making 140 makes him the best he can possibly then why not train like a junior welter. If he's a couple of pounds over 140 he'll still be a welterweight. In that way he will be at his best shape during weigh-ins and at fight night the weight would be pretty much the same with Cotto as Ricky gains 13-15 lbs.

Or you folks think the other way around? do you think this welters are too big for Ricky that's why they have to shed some muscles to make it a more even fight? That's just not right..I think it's just an unfair and unreasonable thing to do.,Ricky has a 7 pound margin to work with. If he wants he can drop all the way down to 140 and eat a box of pizza before the weigh-in cuz he's gonna feast himself with food after it anyway. But for Cotto to starve himself is just unfair. He wouldn't be the same fighter.

I think the best Ricky against best Cotto is a helluva match. Both has KO power but I give Cotto the advantage because he has a good jab to keep Ricky at bay.

Good point.. This is what Mayweather did against Oscar.. he weighed in at 149 or 150 for the 154 limit.. just because you're moving up doesn't mean you have to meet the limit.. Granted if you are a fighter with a decent enough sized frame that you can gain some muscle and use it to your advantage, then that's what you would want to do.. but the smaller guys who need speed, have to be smart about it. YES, you're fighting someone who is probably in general a bit bigger than you, but bulking up and losing speed is not the way to put yourself in the best position to win the fight.

I'd say the lowest Cotto would ever go would be 145 for a catchweight.. That would be more than reasonable i would think.. You would still hear the Hatton fans saying, "Hatton just wasn't big enough!! Give him a break" As if the entire universe didn't know that BEFORE the fight..

[the_PRODIGY]

What is with these weight limits and catch weights? I just don't get it when people say Hatton is not the same at welterweight. Maybe he is not as sharp at 147 but he doesn't have to weigh exactly at 147. If the diet and training of making 140 makes him the best he can possibly then why not train like a junior welter. If he's a couple of pounds over 140 he'll still be a welterweight. In that way he will be at his best shape during weigh-ins and at fight night the weight would be pretty much the same with Cotto as Ricky gains 13-15 lbs.

Or you folks think the other way around? do you think this welters are too big for Ricky that's why they have to shed some muscles to make it a more even fight? That's just not right..I think it's just an unfair and unreasonable thing to do.,Ricky has a 7 pound margin to work with. If he wants he can drop all the way down to 140 and eat a box of pizza before the weigh-in cuz he's gonna feast himself with food after it anyway. But for Cotto to starve himself is just unfair. He wouldn't be the same fighter.

I think the best Ricky against best Cotto is a helluva match. Both has KO power but I give Cotto the advantage because he has a good jab to keep Ricky at bay.

Good point.. This is what Mayweather did against Oscar.. he weighed in at 149 or 150 for the 154 limit.. just because you're moving up doesn't mean you have to meet the limit.. Granted if you are a fighter with a decent enough sized frame that you can gain some muscle and use it to your advantage, then that's what you would want to do.. but the smaller guys who need speed, have to be smart about it. YES, you're fighting someone who is probably in general a bit bigger than you, but bulking up and losing speed is not the way to put yourself in the best position to win the fight.

I'd say the lowest Cotto would ever go would be 145 for a catchweight.. That would be more than reasonable i would think.. You would still hear the Hatton fans saying, "Hatton just wasn't big enough!! Give him a break" As if the entire universe didn't know that BEFORE the fight..

True..But I don't agree with the catch weight thing. 145 would take hell for Cotto to make. I mean, I think he's starving himself bigtime to make 147.. I just think there's not much size difference between Hatton and Cotto. Only that Ricky is able to reach his peak physically at the training he gets at 140. While Cotto having a bigger skeletal frame its much harder for him to shed weight.

I will say it again..all that matters is the weight at fight night. Remember it's the weight you put into your punches. If they weigh the same that night, there's not much to complain about the size difference.

[HattonTheHammer]

Cotto would smash the fuck out of hatton as he would pacquiao and any other light welter/welter around at the moment