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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
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    Kahn could actually beat Valero even stop him imo. Valero hasnt fought anyone that big with that kind of speed. Of course Valero cuold KO him if he lands a big punch, but I do think Kahn is smarter and aware that he needs to keep a tight D. If it went past 3, id favor Kahn.
    I'm with you on that. I also wanna add that Valero never fought an A level elite fighter (Mosquera was only B+, so as Khan).

    I'd say imo, Valero-Khan is 50/50.

    Agreed I give it a 50/50 split....Though Valero has a damn hard punch!!!
    Definately 50-50. What makes it interesting is that the boxer usually beats the puncher, but in this case the boxer is a bit chinny and the puncher has some speed. Mosquera is a good fighter, probably the best on his resume, but I cant help but think that if Kahn had fought Valeros opposition, he two would be undefeated with almost all kos. The guy Valero fought last night had impressive numbers but he was in survival mode from the start.
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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
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    I'm with you on that. I also wanna add that Valero never fought an A level elite fighter (Mosquera was only B+, so as Khan).

    I'd say imo, Valero-Khan is 50/50.

    Agreed I give it a 50/50 split....Though Valero has a damn hard punch!!!
    Definately 50-50. What makes it interesting is that the boxer usually beats the puncher, but in this case the boxer is a bit chinny and the puncher has some speed. Mosquera is a good fighter, probably the best on his resume, but I cant help but think that if Kahn had fought Valeros opposition, he two would be undefeated with almost all kos. The guy Valero fought last night had impressive numbers but he was in survival mode from the start.
    Seems like Pitalua got intimidated from the opening bell and didn't fight smart.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    i think Khan's ego would allow him to get careless and he'd get tagged cleanly by Valero and go down, and hard, but yea it's a 50/50 fight

    one thing though Valero looked a lot more poised last night than he's looked in the past, i mean he's far from being a technical marvel but he didn't go as crazy as he has in the past, going back to the JMM/Valero fight, i think JMM would counter him pretty much all night, but if Valero landed a clean shot like Diaz did, Marquez would be out

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    Agreed I give it a 50/50 split....Though Valero has a damn hard punch!!!
    Definately 50-50. What makes it interesting is that the boxer usually beats the puncher, but in this case the boxer is a bit chinny and the puncher has some speed. Mosquera is a good fighter, probably the best on his resume, but I cant help but think that if Kahn had fought Valeros opposition, he two would be undefeated with almost all kos. The guy Valero fought last night had impressive numbers but he was in survival mode from the start.
    Seems like Pitalua got intimidated from the opening bell and didn't fight smart.
    Really? I didn't see the fight.

    Pitaltua had a lot of tough talk before the fight, and I thought he was gonna be a tough test for Valero.
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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    Khan will outbox him

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxer1234 View Post
    Khan will outbox him
    Ameer Con could not even out box Prescott. Con beats an old Barrera and suddenly Con is an ace once again? Give me a break. If Valero can land one clean shot and then swarm Ameer Con and then Valero gets Calzlappy on his arse, I think Valero can finish him but he will have to catch The Con artist first as the Con has a new 10 speed bike that has been tuned up by the Roach. I would still favor Valero even if his defense is leaky. Con himself has beat no one and if you mention Barrera, that win is no more significant as Hatton's win over Paulie Malignaggi.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    Second round KO for Edwin Valero. Valero is a beast.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    Khan's edge would be his height and skill, speed I'd say is equal but Valero's power alone destroys the very chinny Khan.
    Valero's stops Khan in less than 6 rounds!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G View Post
    that win is no more significant as Hatton's win over Paulie Malignaggi.
    Are you still upset that Paulie went 12 rounds with your boyfriend Cotto and didn't get knocked out? Or maybe you're upset that Hatton gave a more dominant performance over Paulie than Cotto did? And I swear if you say it was because Cotto was weight drained and that bullshit I'm going to cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyUK View Post
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    that win is no more significant as Hatton's win over Paulie Malignaggi.
    Are you still upset that Paulie went 12 rounds with your boyfriend Cotto and didn't get knocked out? Or maybe you're upset that Hatton gave a more dominant performance over Paulie than Cotto did? And I swear if you say it was because Cotto was weight drained and that bullshit I'm going to cry.
    i'm no Cotto nuthugger, but he beat Malignaggi plenty convincingly and i'd dare say he beat him up a hell of a lot worse than Hatton did, i mean look at his face after both fights and it speaks for itself, second of all Malignaggi is a good decent fighter and should be counted as a good win on both fighter's records, but Hatton did NOT knock him out, the fight was stopped, but Hatton did NOT knock him out, corner stoppage doesn't equal KO, and on that note, look at both fighters records, who has the bigger names?

    Cotto:
    Mosley (proved against Margarito he's nowhere close to finished)
    Margarito (Plaster)
    Judah (aside from Tszyu, worst beating put on him)
    Malignaggi (was undefeated, and left with a broken cheek)
    Torres (went on to become WBO jrwelter champ beating Arnaoutis and KO'ing Holt)
    Corley (seasoned veteran who aside from what he made out and a bad stoppage, wanted to quit that fight)
    Quintana (was undefeated with a win over Julio, and then went on to win the WBO welterweight title with a good win over Paul Williams)
    Bailey (is still a big player in the 140 division)

    plus other big wins that but i wouldn't count them as big names

    Hatton:
    Phillips (good win, but Phillips past his days)
    Tackie (Alfonso Gomez has a win over him )
    Tszyu (biggest win hands down)
    Collazo (should of been Hattons first loss)
    Mayweather Jr (started well, than got dominated)
    Urango (gave Hatton fits, but he regained control for a good win)
    Castillo (old, and shot, the Lujan loss just verified it)
    Lazcano (an old lightweight, and give him fits)
    Malignaggi (a calmer Hatton won the fight pretty easily)

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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    valero khan is almost a guaranteed first round KO of khan


    its a waste of time



    khan should fight julio chavez jr, that could last long enough to be entertaining before khan got KOd

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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    Valero mite miss Khan's chin but the force he misses with still mite hurt khan.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    Valero is a horrible fighter to watch, just horrible, but he is effective. I really don't think Valero is the monster people make him out to be. I say it's 60/40 fight in Khans favour

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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Valero is a horrible fighter to watch, just horrible, but he is effective. I really don't think Valero is the monster people make him out to be. I say it's 60/40 fight in Khans favour
    South Paw! A lot of people used to say that about Pacquiao too.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

    I take Khan on this one providing he sticks with the his new quick hands then cover up style. Obviously if he gets tagged by a big hitter then it's goodnight, but isn't that true of most.
    I know he can look a bit wobbley but I think too much has been made of his knockout, look at Nigel Benn, some days you hit him with a hammer and he loved it , others he went over if caught just right.
    I wonder what would have happened to a lot of slick fighters that were able to avoid shots if they were tagged, might be more glass jaws out there than we think

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