Amir Khan v Edwin Valero...

[DatsiK]

that win is no more significant as Hatton's win over Paulie Malignaggi.

Are you still upset that Paulie went 12 rounds with your boyfriend Cotto and didn't get knocked out? Or maybe you're upset that Hatton gave a more dominant performance over Paulie than Cotto did? And I swear if you say it was because Cotto was weight drained and that bullshit I'm going to cry.

[ElTerribleMorales]

that win is no more significant as Hatton's win over Paulie Malignaggi.

Are you still upset that Paulie went 12 rounds with your boyfriend Cotto and didn't get knocked out? Or maybe you're upset that Hatton gave a more dominant performance over Paulie than Cotto did? And I swear if you say it was because Cotto was weight drained and that bullshit I'm going to cry.

i'm no Cotto nuthugger, but he beat Malignaggi plenty convincingly and i'd dare say he beat him up a hell of a lot worse than Hatton did, i mean look at his face after both fights and it speaks for itself, second of all Malignaggi is a good decent fighter and should be counted as a good win on both fighter's records, but Hatton did NOT knock him out, the fight was stopped, but Hatton did NOT knock him out, corner stoppage doesn't equal KO, and on that note, look at both fighters records, who has the bigger names?

Cotto:
Mosley (proved against Margarito he's nowhere close to finished)
Margarito (Plaster)
Judah (aside from Tszyu, worst beating put on him)
Malignaggi (was undefeated, and left with a broken cheek)
Torres (went on to become WBO jrwelter champ beating Arnaoutis and KO'ing Holt)
Corley (seasoned veteran who aside from what he made out and a bad stoppage, wanted to quit that fight)
Quintana (was undefeated with a win over Julio, and then went on to win the WBO welterweight title with a good win over Paul Williams)
Bailey (is still a big player in the 140 division)

plus other big wins that but i wouldn't count them as big names

Hatton:
Phillips (good win, but Phillips past his days)
Tackie (Alfonso Gomez has a win over him )
Tszyu (biggest win hands down)
Collazo (should of been Hattons first loss)
Mayweather Jr (started well, than got dominated)
Urango (gave Hatton fits, but he regained control for a good win)
Castillo (old, and shot, the Lujan loss just verified it)
Lazcano (an old lightweight, and give him fits)
Malignaggi (a calmer Hatton won the fight pretty easily)

[Mr140]

Be honest i would say Mosley fight could of gone ethier way and he lost to Margarito but still when i watch that fight really did fight wrong way. Because look at how well Mosley time Margarito out and if you going to go off about plaster i guess what can i say no proof he did or didnt.

[Mr140]

Also Juhda i cant even consider a good win anymore he has lost ever single big right damn near and he did have alot of losses before Cotto. Carlos got koed in the first by Williams and Torres still sleeping form Holt. Not saying Hatton is any better then Cotto just pointing somethings out. Also yet again i dont have a problem with plaster thing but really is no proof of it and i still consider a legit lose because cant prove it other wise and that is all i really had to say you made some points.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Be honest i would say Mosley fight could of gone ethier way and he lost to Margarito but still when i watch that fight really did fight wrong way. Because look at how well Mosley time Margarito out and if you going to go off about plaster i guess what can i say no proof he did or didnt.

only Margarito and his trainer know if he did, but it's kinda hard to believe that he would start with Mosley, a fighter who he was already picked to win against, lost to Cotto, and didn't really look too good in his last time out (Mayorga fight), so i'm pretty sure he did against Cotto, and i had Cotto beating Mosley 115-113

[Mr140]

I think i had Mosley winning by the same margin but it was a close fight. As for Margarito all i while point out this according to his trainers he had some trouble making weight and maybe was not on top of his game. Not to mention Mosley has alot of things to give Margarito hell. He has chin as good if not better then him, he good stamina and good finisher late in fight and he is way faster then him so looking at that i dont have that much of problem thinking it was first time but i dont know just a thought dude.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think i had Mosley winning by the same margin but it was a close fight. As for Margarito all i while point out this according to his trainers he had some trouble making weight and maybe was not on top of his game. Not to mention Mosley has alot of things to give Margarito hell. He has chin as good if not better then him, he good stamina and good finisher late in fight and he is way faster then him so looking at that i dont have that much of problem thinking it was first time but i dont know just a thought dude.

i'm not ruling out the possibility of what you're saying, and i'd like to think this was the ONLY time Margarito tried to do it and that it was just a stupid mistake, but on the second hand it's kinda hard to believe, but only him and his trainer know for sure

[Mr140]

Oh i understand you dude but for me either this was his first time or he has been doing it all his career but if he has then i really confused. Reason i am confused is because they probable would of found it by now i think. Then you got look at all the different results if this shit so deadly then why was Margarito not knocking guys out some fighters werent even hurt.

[JazMerkin]

How the hell have we ended up talking about bloody Margarito again??!

I'll bet Cotto doesn't talk about that goat looking fool as much as we do here

Anyway, back to the topic, Valero has got a hell of a punch, but to see people comparing him to Pacquiao is mad. Oh wait I don't want to talk about him either, it will only bring SaddoBoxer & brucelee in here like vultures.

So, Khan... well... no that's only gonna end up talking about Barrera's bloody cut again

I'll just say I think if Khan could stay out of Valero's way for the first 6 rounds he could take the fight well, maybe even KOing him

[ElTerribleMorales]

How the hell have we ended up talking about bloody Margarito again??!

I'll bet Cotto doesn't talk about that goat looking fool as much as we do here

Anyway, back to the topic, Valero has got a hell of a punch, but to see people comparing him to Pacquiao is mad. Oh wait I don't want to talk about him either, it will only bring SaddoBoxer & brucelee in here like vultures.

So, Khan... well... no that's only gonna end up talking about Barrera's bloody cut again

I'll just say I think if Khan could stay out of Valero's way for the first 6 rounds he could take the fight well, maybe even KOing him

i agree that the whole subject of Pac is getting annoying, but it's not completely absurd to compar Valero to Pacquiao, if you look at the old Manny the one who only knew how to throw 2 punches which were the lunging jab followed by the straight left, Valero does look a lot like him, the only difference is Manny has evolved and added no aspects to his style, only time will tell if Valero is for real and will be able to do that as well

[DatsiK]

i'm no Cotto nuthugger, but he beat Malignaggi plenty convincingly and i'd dare say he beat him up a hell of a lot worse than Hatton did, i mean look at his face after both fights and it speaks for itself, second of all Malignaggi is a good decent fighter and should be counted as a good win on both fighter's records, but Hatton did NOT knock him out, the fight was stopped, but Hatton did NOT knock him out, corner stoppage doesn't equal KO, and on that note, look at both fighters records, who has the bigger names?

Woah woah woah woah woah!!! there's no need for you to suddenly run to Cotto's defence, I didn't in no way insinuate Cotto is a bad fighter or that Hatton is better than him. I infact agree with you in saying Paulie is a very good fighter and therefore Hatton should be given credit for his win over him, as should Cotto. Unfortunately Danny doesn't agree, hence why I said what I said.

[ElTerribleMorales]

i'm no Cotto nuthugger, but he beat Malignaggi plenty convincingly and i'd dare say he beat him up a hell of a lot worse than Hatton did, i mean look at his face after both fights and it speaks for itself, second of all Malignaggi is a good decent fighter and should be counted as a good win on both fighter's records, but Hatton did NOT knock him out, the fight was stopped, but Hatton did NOT knock him out, corner stoppage doesn't equal KO, and on that note, look at both fighters records, who has the bigger names?

Woah woah woah woah woah!!! there's no need for you to suddenly run to Cotto's defence, I didn't in no way insinuate Cotto is a bad fighter or that Hatton is better than him. I infact agree with you in saying Paulie is a very good fighter and therefore Hatton should be given credit for his win over him, as should Cotto. Unfortunately Danny doesn't agree, hence why I said what I said.

ok no problem, and agree both should be given full credit of their wins, Malignaggi is a lot better than most think, only thing is he's already in a division that from there on up you have to at least have a decent amount of power, and well even if he's got speed and good boxing ability he doesn't have enough pop in his punches to hurt anyone