Arreola-McCline

[El Kabong]

Spicoli and hattonhamer you are both right on the money. It seems at times when McCline is in a dangerous fight he tightens up a bunch and is seemingly scared to throw punches.....conversly he can also loosen up a bit when put under pressure like he did vs Sam Peter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT-R-w8Bmi8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmgwRN-OCIE

....if you look at the styles of Wladimir and Sam Peter, Wlad stayed back fought behind the jab and made McCline think while Sam just attacked him and McCline didn't get the chance to think about the danger. So I am hoping Arreola tries to jump on McCline early and Jameel catches him. Jameel isn't that bad of a heavyweight he's just inconsistent.

[Rantcatrat]

Spicoli and hattonhamer you are both right on the money. It seems at times when McCline is in a dangerous fight he tightens up a bunch and is seemingly scared to throw punches.....conversly he can also loosen up a bit when put under pressure like he did vs Sam Peter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT-R-w8Bmi8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmgwRN-OCIE

....if you look at the styles of Wladimir and Sam Peter, Wlad stayed back fought behind the jab and made McCline think while Sam just attacked him and McCline didn't get the chance to think about the danger. So I am hoping Arreola tries to jump on McCline early and Jameel catches him. Jameel isn't that bad of a heavyweight he's just inconsistent.

Can someone explain why Arreola gets all the hate? He is likeable - Is he not? He has never been in a dull fight. You won't ever find yourself watching an Ibragimov/Thompson v. Klitschko snoozefest when Arreola is involved because he is an all-action, brawling heavyweight. He isn't 6'8 and content to work behind his jab; he is 6'4 and wants a brawl. He is paying his dues by fighting tough undefeated prospects and knocking them out. Plus he is humble and looks like Freddy Kruger. What is there not to like?

I have nothing against McCline, but Jameel is getting knocked out early in this one. And then once again, people will overlook the solid win and criticize Arreola because he weighed 250, not 240.

If you don't like him, fine, but what does he have to do to earn your respect?

[El Kabong]

I like Arreola more than David Haye....he's an affable fella, I just don't appreciate the way he trains and the manner in which he fights.

If you come into a big fight looking like a fat slob then you have little respect for your opponent and little respect for the sport....maybe it's my perception but Arreola like many current heavyweights has a tough time getting "IN SHAPE"...when you are in good shape you're going to be more consistent, have more energy, and be a more exciting fighter.

Which is more exciting, the 226 pound David Tua who took on Ike Ibeabuchi for 12 full rounds of nonstop excitement or the 242 pound David Tua who took on Fres Oquendo and was losing every round of the fight before he KO'd Fres?

And it's not just Tua who is affected by weight....Shannon Briggs, gave a good showing vs Lennox Lewis at 228 pounds and then looked like he needed oxygen after throwing A punch vs Ibragimov when he weighed in at an outrageous 273 pounds.

Why should Arreola be viewed any differently...McCline has some weight issues as well but he seems to always have decent cardio stamina, breathing through his punches etc. McCline was semi-retired before this fight was made...I hope he's not just in it for the pay day as a win here could mean a lot more money for him.

[OumaFan]

I can't be bothered to be a fan of a guy who doesn't care and won't train, hence the James Toney sig.

Meh, I don't hate him, I'm just tired of all these out of shape, slow heavies.

If he knocked out McCline early I'd pay attention, I wouldn't be a fan but that would be an accomplishment, its most likely not going to happen though.