The Pirate Situation, Captain Richard Phillips, The Obama Administration

[El Kabong]

Seeing as some of you guys used this right wing propaganda stuff to blame your president for not getting this taken care of (which is hilariious, btw), now you can thank your president for making one of the only ever rescues without paying off the pirates.

Happy Easter.

....Youngblood, I'm happy that you (someone who is too young to vote, who lives outside the US, and made such a big deal about Obama during the election like it would affect you) are pleased with the Obama Administration's slow actions in this situation....I am sure Obama will be pleased that you (a Canadian) have his back....it's nice that Obama seems to care more about what foreigners suchas yourself think instead of people in the country that elected him, and we're pleased as citizens represented by Obama that he can take time out of his speeches to talk shit about our country when we're at war and when situations like this arise.

Obama didn't use the freaking media whom he is so fond of to help out in this situation. He didn't make a speech, he didn't demand swift action, he didn't act like a leader....he didn't even answer questions about the pirates.....that's not leadership and although I am happy that the Captain (a man who acted like a true leader) is safe, I am unhappy with how long it took to free this guy from 4 pirates in a small boat that was out of gas.

Youngblood, it's not JUST about the pirate situation....if these bums are testing their boundries with us and the Chinese/North Koreans are doing the same and Obama isn't acting in a swift decisive manner then as a citizen you kind of worry about what is going to happen next.

[Youngblood]

Seeing as some of you guys used this right wing propaganda stuff to blame your president for not getting this taken care of (which is hilariious, btw), now you can thank your president for making one of the only ever rescues without paying off the pirates.

Happy Easter.

....Youngblood, I'm happy that you (someone who is too young to vote, who lives outside the US, and made such a big deal about Obama during the election like it would affect you) are pleased with the Obama Administration's slow actions in this situation....I am sure Obama will be pleased that you (a Canadian) have his back....it's nice that Obama seems to care more about what foreigners suchas yourself think instead of people in the country that elected him, and we're pleased as citizens represented by Obama that he can take time out of his speeches to talk shit about our country when we're at war and when situations like this arise.

Obama didn't use the freaking media whom he is so fond of to help out in this situation. He didn't make a speech, he didn't demand swift action, he didn't act like a leader....he didn't even answer questions about the pirates.....that's not leadership and although I am happy that the Captain (a man who acted like a true leader) is safe, I am unhappy with how long it took to free this guy from 4 pirates in a small boat that was out of gas.

Youngblood, it's not JUST about the pirate situation....if these bums are testing their boundries with us and the Chinese/North Koreans are doing the same and Obama isn't acting in a swift decisive manner then as a citizen you kind of worry about what is going to happen next.

So I guess that means you aren't going to thank him?

It was ridiculous for you guys to make it sound like Obama was on the phone the first time the captain jumped off, saying..."Wait guys, don't fire...I got policy on this!" Is like none of you even considered that maybe the people there on the scene were doing everything they could to keep the man alive and have a safe rescue.

It doesn't take much insight to see what sort uses a situation like this to promote their agenda politically. But seeing as ya all felt the need to, well atleast don't be uber hypocrites and now thank him.

Myself, I'll extend congrats to the men personally involved, the Navy guys, the captain, negotiators etc. I won't thank Obama because I never tried to in some deluded way think he was in any responsible.

Is there a situation with pirates? Yes, there is. Is it new? Not at all. Is there a situation with Korea? Yes there. Is it new? Not at all.

But hey, he has already done more with that situation in the seas then your republicans ever did by your logic (which is not at all logical). And he wouldn't have to do much more to do more then the repubs did concerning Korea. Maybe give the guy a few years...see what shakes out. I mean, seriously. He might need alittle time, he's currently having to clean up your parties complete fookin mess it left of the country, he's kinda a busy guy.

[BoomBoom]

Great news that he is free and unharmed. Couldnt be happier for him and his family. Let me explain something youngblood. This was a good ending, it could have easily gone bad though. The captain managed to jump from the ship again, this time action as taken. I thank the Navy, not Obama. Hes sitting in in a comfy chair or playing with his new puppy on capitol hill. Right wing, left wing, republican, democrat, that sh@t means absolutely nothing to me. All I care about is right and wrong and the priorities of the country, especially during hard times like this when we are most vulnerable and the whle world is watching. Trust me, I want more than anything for Obama to do good for this country. But, why should I or anyone else praise him for something that he doesnt deserve praise for? Now that this one thing has been taken care of, lets see how he acts on the ongoing situation over there.

[Youngblood]

I think you missed the point BoomBoom. You started this thread blaming Obama for them not firing the first time the captain jumped out and made a swim for it. Like seriously...are you kidding me?

So to assign that sort of responsibility to him, as you did, as Lyle and others with political agendas tend to do, then you must also assign him the responsibility for the outcome with that rationale. And seeing it was a positive outcome, yes, if you are going to assume him one way, then you should assume the other.

And of course no one with any use of unbiased logic and reason would do that, and consider that maybe it was the people in place at the scene who were handling it to the best of their abilities. Hoping for a good outcome. Not using it as a platform to blame the president.

[BoomBoom]

I think the presidents administration putting out a statement that we wanted to resolve the situation with no violence or loss of life was wrong. He didnt even come out himself with a statement of adress. One, because he didnt know how to react of what to do, or two because it wasnt his priority at the moment. Point is, he didnt show leadership an instead made us look weak by his absence and lack of immediate action. And please, dont talk to me about me having a political agenda and using this situation as an excuse to put blame on the president. Thats low of you to even insinuate. Im just gonna brush that one off and take it as a mistake on your part, because I like ya Youngblood you generally seem like a good dude. But its not as black and white as your making it out to be though, and the problems go far beyond the coast of Somali.

[El Kabong]

So Youngblood, you don't think President hand any say in the situation? You don't think the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF had any say in a situation that involved a US Citizen and US Armed Forces?

It isn't about agenda it's about what's more important housing or someone's life?!?!?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRrXrGg292w
....what are the true priorities of this administration, because bviously it's not our safety/security.

But I guess we can give him a pass, we gave him a pass for talking shit about the country that elected him, we gave him a pass for not responding in any meaningful way to North Korea, and we should give him a pass on this.....let's just wait it out and hopefully Barry's "Cover for me" attitude will fix all that is wrong with the world.....after all he's just sooooo cool, I mean we've got a celebrity as President who's telling foreign people that America as a whole is arrogant and therefore Americans are arrogant and if Barry can take the people of America down a peg then everyone else should have a go too.

Obama has the stage set to pick America up when we're down and what does he do Youngblood? Does he inspire us Does he tell us "We have nothing to fear but fear itself", does he tell us we are the "One shining city on a hill".....no he demeans us and puts us down outside of our country. Is that leadership to you?

[El Kabong]

Youngblood, Bob Hope said it best...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqhh6Ebr9nQ

[OumaFan]

Republicans talking out of their asses, shocking