The Thrilla in Manilla Documentary

[RozzySean]

...it is just tragic the way Ali treated Joe, and Ali gets the praise and the glory and all Joe gets is the satisfaction of beating up Ali in all 3 fights....he lost 2 of them but Frazier hurt him there is no denying that.

I watched this documentary and I really got angry. If you choose Ali you were right and if Frazier you were a racist or an uncle Tom. What a crock of shit. Nevermind the fact that Frazier was just a hard nosed blue collared fighter who worked his whole life since he was a kid and Ali was a middle-class school enrolled student who was bred for olympic glory. Something oddley enough when Ali called Frazier an Uncle Tom and a pure nigger. When Frazier was actually treated like a slave his whole life and had to fight for everything he got. I kept saying god damn people were stupid back then. Here is a man who has done nothing to nobody just won the heavyweight crown by KO,and didn't hype himself as "The Greatest" kept his mouth shut and did his job,also helped his friend Ali in need by giving him money when he was flat broke,then get's him back into the ring, then Ali spits back in his face by destroying Frazier's life and Frazier's children from simple childish name calling and the stupid ass media ate the shit up. Fuck everyone who was ever involved with that and thought it was ok. And FUCK Ferdie Pachaceo another piece of shit after that stupid stupid interview last night saying " it was great ". Sorry I'm getting a little pissed off again. But in the end Frazier is still pissed and rightfully so. Fuck Ali for doing that who was his FRIEND in the beginning. He is a backstabbing piece of shit in my mind.

I honestly thought the documentary was bias in Fraizer's favor heavily.

I like Fraizer better so doesn't bother me but I'm just sayin thats what I saw.

Well, yeah, it probably was, and I'm glad it was. Ali gets a pass on way too much BS and he's become this uber-hero, more than he really deserves. I think some of the point of it was to show another perspective on "The Greatest." Frazier never got the credit he really deserved. Part of this has to do with the Foreman fight, but Ali and his mouth also contributed. Ali fans convinced themselves that the first fight was closer than it was and that it was a fluke. In the second fight, the ref played a big role, and in the third fight, Ali might have beat (barely) Frazier, but Frazier BEAT UP Ali.

[boozeboxer]

I wish they would play the entire fight either before or after (preferably both) the documentary. I hate seeing like 10 seconds of a round and then not seeing the rest. It is like strip tease.

[Majesty]

I watched this documentary and I really got angry. If you choose Ali you were right and if Frazier you were a racist or an uncle Tom. What a crock of shit. Nevermind the fact that Frazier was just a hard nosed blue collared fighter who worked his whole life since he was a kid and Ali was a middle-class school enrolled student who was bred for olympic glory. Something oddley enough when Ali called Frazier an Uncle Tom and a pure nigger. When Frazier was actually treated like a slave his whole life and had to fight for everything he got. I kept saying god damn people were stupid back then. Here is a man who has done nothing to nobody just won the heavyweight crown by KO,and didn't hype himself as "The Greatest" kept his mouth shut and did his job,also helped his friend Ali in need by giving him money when he was flat broke,then get's him back into the ring, then Ali spits back in his face by destroying Frazier's life and Frazier's children from simple childish name calling and the stupid ass media ate the shit up. Fuck everyone who was ever involved with that and thought it was ok. And FUCK Ferdie Pachaceo another piece of shit after that stupid stupid interview last night saying " it was great ". Sorry I'm getting a little pissed off again. But in the end Frazier is still pissed and rightfully so. Fuck Ali for doing that who was his FRIEND in the beginning. He is a backstabbing piece of shit in my mind.

I honestly thought the documentary was bias in Fraizer's favor heavily.

I like Fraizer better so doesn't bother me but I'm just sayin thats what I saw.

Well, yeah, it probably was, and I'm glad it was. Ali gets a pass on way too much BS and he's become this uber-hero, more than he really deserves. I think some of the point of it was to show another perspective on "The Greatest." Frazier never got the credit he really deserved. Part of this has to do with the Foreman fight, but Ali and his mouth also contributed. Ali fans convinced themselves that the first fight was closer than it was and that it was a fluke. In the second fight, the ref played a big role, and in the third fight, Ali might have beat (barely) Frazier, but Frazier BEAT UP Ali.

Ali got claimed the greatest for the things he did after his boxing career or he'd be known as just a great heavyweight fighter like Joe Frazier. It's not Ali's fault that Frazier didn't decide to do what he did after retirement. To say Frazier gets the short end of the stick is BS.

Ali's kudos not only come from his boxing career but the great things he has done afterwards. Frazier did what most boxers do after they retire and there's no problem with that. Ali went on and did great things outside of boxing, being a motivational speaker, donating to hungry children doing a lot of things and making a lot of stands etc that get him called the Greatest. It's not Ali's fault that Frazier didn't do the same thing to get the same credit.

Stop blaming Ali for doing something after his boxing career and being called the greatest because of it and say its his fault Frazier doesn't get the credit when he didnt do what Ali did after his career.