Hypothetical: Could PBF beat Pac?

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yea Corley hit Floyd. but Floyd adapted and won the fight easily, and people tend to play down Corley's power, he can punch, Oscar Larios gave Pacquiao fits, and made it a competitive fight, it wasn't really lopsided like the scores may imply, i had Manny winning i think 8 rounds to 4 (plus the knockdowns, and remember Larios tends to be chinny) , and a lot of the rounds were hard fought rounds so it's not like Manny is untouchable


Cotto and Mosley are REAL welterweights, and Cotto is in his prime, Manny can't even really be ranked or judged how he'll do at welter when he hasn't fought a live welter, he fought a weight drained shot DLH, it's not even a question on how the DLH that fought Quartey would have done against Manny, he would have put a gruesome beating on him, but time passes and that's not the fighter that was in the ring December, i think Manny can make the fight with Mayweather interesting, but if it happenes at 147 (where it most likely will) i think Mayweathers footspeed, power, and skill will be too much and he'll make Pacquiao look ordinary

How can you measure how drained Oscar was? Manny never gave him the oppertunity to do anything. We don't know how the Oscar that fought Quartey would have done against Manny because Quartey isn't the same fighter Pacquiao is, Quartey fights like Winky Wright he's stationary, he has a great jab and left hook, but a poor right hand.

Also how did oyu ahve Oscar Larios winning four rounds against Manny? I can see that one roung that he hurt Manny, but most of hte rounds Manny clearly won.

I'm not saying I don't think Mayweather will win, but IMO he beats Cotto and Mosley a lot easier, they aren't as hungry as Manny, they aren't as fast, and they aren't southpaw.

I don't think Cotto and Mosley being real welterweights matters because fighting Mayweather is never about size, he knows how to handle bigger guys, and he doesn't impose himself physically on smaller guys.

I am not trying to say Corley was competitive with Mayweather, but that him being a southpaw made a guy of his caliber much more difficult than the same caliber of guy would have been as an orthodox fighter, and he landed punches in all the early rounds, once again I have no idea what people are watching. He was landing with more regularity than Oscar De La Hoya or Ricky Hatton who are both way better than him.

Also I can see Floyd making Pacquiao look stupid in certain circumstances, but if great boxers like Barrera and Marquez can sustain a boxer's edge on the modern version of Pacman then I think Floyd wouldn't be able to with all the ease in the world. I prefer Floyd ten times to Manny, but obviously I am saying this would be competitive for a reason. People way too often think size is the determinant factor, I can look back and see half the people on here think Gatti would beat Floyd. People have a set belief about who should be where in the sport and they won't budge an inch. PS I also think Hatton's style is worse for Manny than Floyd's, but that Floyd is much better at his style than Hatton and a much better and more adaptable athlete than Ricky.

i get where you're coming from but the Oscar that fought Quartey didn't kill himself to make welter that does play a crucial role in the fight, he was in his prime, and he would of boxed Manny's ear's off, he wouldn't just simply try to rush in and throw pointless punches, the only thing he did against Manny, DLH managed to get Pacquiao on the ropes, but wasn't able to do anything when he did, if it were the prime young DLH who was active at welter he would have made Manny pay badly on the ropes, I agree that Pacquiao's will and his improved boxing ability will probably give Mayweather some probs for a couple rounds like Judah, but IMO he'll get figured out and easily beaten for a very clear UD or late stoppage, and back to the Larios fight, i had it 8 to 4, which is still a very clear win for Manny especially since Manny dropped him twice, but back to that, Larios hurt him, if Floyd connects with the hard accurate shots he's known for he can stop him, i don't see the same thing happening the other way around

I really don't know why boxing fans when a fighter beats another fighter out of their prime they say in their prime they'd have beat them.

Who is to say Oscar would have won if him and pacquiao fought prime for prime? Can't discredit Pacquiao's skills too. But I think it would have been an awesome fight to watch. But then again at 147 Oscar was a monster and Pacquiao isnt there naturally.

Whitaker prime for prime beats them both though

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How can you measure how drained Oscar was? Manny never gave him the oppertunity to do anything. We don't know how the Oscar that fought Quartey would have done against Manny because Quartey isn't the same fighter Pacquiao is, Quartey fights like Winky Wright he's stationary, he has a great jab and left hook, but a poor right hand.

Also how did oyu ahve Oscar Larios winning four rounds against Manny? I can see that one roung that he hurt Manny, but most of hte rounds Manny clearly won.

I'm not saying I don't think Mayweather will win, but IMO he beats Cotto and Mosley a lot easier, they aren't as hungry as Manny, they aren't as fast, and they aren't southpaw.

I don't think Cotto and Mosley being real welterweights matters because fighting Mayweather is never about size, he knows how to handle bigger guys, and he doesn't impose himself physically on smaller guys.

I am not trying to say Corley was competitive with Mayweather, but that him being a southpaw made a guy of his caliber much more difficult than the same caliber of guy would have been as an orthodox fighter, and he landed punches in all the early rounds, once again I have no idea what people are watching. He was landing with more regularity than Oscar De La Hoya or Ricky Hatton who are both way better than him.

Also I can see Floyd making Pacquiao look stupid in certain circumstances, but if great boxers like Barrera and Marquez can sustain a boxer's edge on the modern version of Pacman then I think Floyd wouldn't be able to with all the ease in the world. I prefer Floyd ten times to Manny, but obviously I am saying this would be competitive for a reason. People way too often think size is the determinant factor, I can look back and see half the people on here think Gatti would beat Floyd. People have a set belief about who should be where in the sport and they won't budge an inch. PS I also think Hatton's style is worse for Manny than Floyd's, but that Floyd is much better at his style than Hatton and a much better and more adaptable athlete than Ricky.

i get where you're coming from but the Oscar that fought Quartey didn't kill himself to make welter that does play a crucial role in the fight, he was in his prime, and he would of boxed Manny's ear's off, he wouldn't just simply try to rush in and throw pointless punches, the only thing he did against Manny, DLH managed to get Pacquiao on the ropes, but wasn't able to do anything when he did, if it were the prime young DLH who was active at welter he would have made Manny pay badly on the ropes, I agree that Pacquiao's will and his improved boxing ability will probably give Mayweather some probs for a couple rounds like Judah, but IMO he'll get figured out and easily beaten for a very clear UD or late stoppage, and back to the Larios fight, i had it 8 to 4, which is still a very clear win for Manny especially since Manny dropped him twice, but back to that, Larios hurt him, if Floyd connects with the hard accurate shots he's known for he can stop him, i don't see the same thing happening the other way around

I really don't know why boxing fans when a fighter beats another fighter out of their prime they say in their prime they'd have beat them.

Who is to say Oscar would have won if him and pacquiao fought prime for prime? Can't discredit Pacquiao's skills too. But I think it would have been an awesome fight to watch. But then again at 147 Oscar was a monster and Pacquiao isnt there naturally.

Whitaker prime for prime beats them both though

that's the point i'm trying to make, and no doubt neither one of the two would have been able to touch Whitaker

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i get where you're coming from but the Oscar that fought Quartey didn't kill himself to make welter that does play a crucial role in the fight, he was in his prime, and he would of boxed Manny's ear's off, he wouldn't just simply try to rush in and throw pointless punches, the only thing he did against Manny, DLH managed to get Pacquiao on the ropes, but wasn't able to do anything when he did, if it were the prime young DLH who was active at welter he would have made Manny pay badly on the ropes, I agree that Pacquiao's will and his improved boxing ability will probably give Mayweather some probs for a couple rounds like Judah, but IMO he'll get figured out and easily beaten for a very clear UD or late stoppage, and back to the Larios fight, i had it 8 to 4, which is still a very clear win for Manny especially since Manny dropped him twice, but back to that, Larios hurt him, if Floyd connects with the hard accurate shots he's known for he can stop him, i don't see the same thing happening the other way around

I really don't know why boxing fans when a fighter beats another fighter out of their prime they say in their prime they'd have beat them.

Who is to say Oscar would have won if him and pacquiao fought prime for prime? Can't discredit Pacquiao's skills too. But I think it would have been an awesome fight to watch. But then again at 147 Oscar was a monster and Pacquiao isnt there naturally.

Whitaker prime for prime beats them both though

that's the point i'm trying to make, and no doubt neither one of the two would have been able to touch Whitaker

Once again how can you compare? We don't know how Whitaker would have done against guys faster than him like Floyd and Pacquiao. IMO I think Floyd is a better fighter than Whitaker, he's harder to hit, he's faster, he's got more a little more snap on his punches.