Capitalism

[El Kabong]

Kirkland, does the US government spend too much money?

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland, does the US government spend too much money?

They were spending too much money before Obama took over. Between 2000 and 2008 Bush doubled the national debt to ten trillion and gave guarantees to the banks for another ten trillion. Where were the teabaggers then? The only reason they're upset now is that their guy lost the election and there's now a black man in the White House. If McCain had won there'd be exactly the same level of spending but no teabaggers.

[VictorCharlie]

This argument is getting so old. The thing is I know your are better than this b/c I've seen you post on this topic before. Saying that the level of Federal spending is ok b/c the last guy did it too is the kind of debate I'd have with my four year old. Also by your statement we can say that any political protest has no meaning or relevance its just b/c "their" guy lost?

[Kirkland Laing]

This argument is getting so old. The thing is I know your are better than this b/c I've seen you post on this topic before. Saying that the level of Federal spending is ok b/c the last guy did it too is the kind of debate I'd have with my four year old. Also by your statement we can say that any political protest has no meaning or relevance its just b/c "their" guy lost?

I'n not saying the level of spending is OK, I'm wondering why people have only got so exercised about it in the last couple of months.

[VictorCharlie]

This argument is getting so old. The thing is I know your are better than this b/c I've seen you post on this topic before. Saying that the level of Federal spending is ok b/c the last guy did it too is the kind of debate I'd have with my four year old. Also by your statement we can say that any political protest has no meaning or relevance its just b/c "their" guy lost?

I'n not saying the level of spending is OK, I'm wondering why people have only got so exercised about it in the last couple of months.

I think most rationale people can agree that President Bush did a pretty crappy job and it is unfortunate that while he was president many of the GOP refused come out against him. That being said many of the tea party (who picked this stupid name anyway?) attendees might be hypocrites but it doesn't necessarily make them wrong.

[Kirkland Laing]

This argument is getting so old. The thing is I know your are better than this b/c I've seen you post on this topic before. Saying that the level of Federal spending is ok b/c the last guy did it too is the kind of debate I'd have with my four year old. Also by your statement we can say that any political protest has no meaning or relevance its just b/c "their" guy lost?

I'n not saying the level of spending is OK, I'm wondering why people have only got so exercised about it in the last couple of months.

I think most rationale people can agree that President Bush did a pretty crappy job and it is unfortunate that while he was president many of the GOP refused come out against him. That being said many of the tea party (who picked this stupid name anyway?) attendees might be hypocrites but it doesn't necessarily make them wrong.

Most of them are there protesting about tax increases when they just got a tax cut. The money Obama increased spending by is only to counteract the cratering of the economy caused by the policies of the last eight years. He's reacting to the biggest financial disaster for nearly a century and things would be a great deal worse if he hadn't reacted. If McCain had won the election he would have done pretty much the same thing, except we wouldn't have seen any of those teabaggers out protesting.

[VictorCharlie]

Kirk there is no way to know what Sen. McCain would have done and there were other options besides the tremendous amount of spending we have seen. Most of the people I have spoken to that attended the events didn't really take issue with the taxes as much as the budget and bailouts. These are philisophical differences between you and them and although you claim omnipotence it doesn't make them wrong or their opinions any less valid than yours.

[El Kabong]

Most of them are there protesting about tax increases when they just got a tax cut. The money Obama increased spending by is only to counteract the cratering of the economy caused by the policies of the last eight years. He's reacting to the biggest financial disaster for nearly a century and things would be a great deal worse if he hadn't reacted. If McCain had won the election he would have done pretty much the same thing, except we wouldn't have seen any of those teabaggers out protesting.

Well with the Bush Tax cuts ending soon and Obama wanting to pass things like Cap and Trade, I don't think he's going to make life cheaper for many.....a tax cut for 95% is ridiculous anyway when nowhere close to 95% of Americans pay income taxes.

And man am I flattered, did you just copy me Awww, that's sweet...see you can be humble, honestly it suits you

[El Kabong]

They were spending too much money before Obama took over. Between 2000 and 2008 Bush doubled the national debt to ten trillion and gave guarantees to the banks for another ten trillion. Where were the teabaggers then? The only reason they're upset now is that their guy lost the election and there's now a black man in the White House. If McCain had won there'd be exactly the same level of spending but no teabaggers.

The bold and underlined part answers the question, I didn't ask for a commentary on why people are angry and besides you are wrong in the conclusion you have reached.

Yes the government spends too much. That's all I needed to read, and especially from you who if I am not mistaken wrote in a number of posts that America spends too much and taxes too little. The tea baggers agree that America spends ( and has spent before Obama got in office as well) too much but they don't believe raising taxes does anything other than give the government the green light to spend more money.

There might not be tea baggers had McCain won, however, there would be no lack of protesters, I am sure you will admit to that.

[Kirkland Laing]

They were spending too much money before Obama took over. Between 2000 and 2008 Bush doubled the national debt to ten trillion and gave guarantees to the banks for another ten trillion. Where were the teabaggers then? The only reason they're upset now is that their guy lost the election and there's now a black man in the White House. If McCain had won there'd be exactly the same level of spending but no teabaggers.

The bold and underlined part answers the question, I didn't ask for a commentary on why people are angry and besides you are wrong in the conclusion you have reached.

Yes the government spends too much. That's all I needed to read, and especially from you who if I am not mistaken wrote in a number of posts that America spends too much and taxes too little. The tea baggers agree that America spends ( and has spent before Obama got in office as well) too much but they don't believe raising taxes does anything other than give the government the green light to spend more money.

There might not be tea baggers had McCain won, however, there would be no lack of protesters, I am sure you will admit to that.

After the evidence of my Infallibility and your relentless wrongness over the past couple of years, I find it difficult to believe my eyes here. It looks like you're claiming that Kirkland Laing, The Infallible One, is wrong about something! Your arrogance is breathtaking.

[El Kabong]

After the evidence of my Infallibility and your relentless wrongness over the past couple of years, I find it difficult to believe my eyes here. It looks like you're claiming that Kirkland Laing, The Infallible One, is wrong about something! Your arrogance is breathtaking.

...as is your ignorance.

Did I not mention when Barry was running, even in the Primary that any who opposed the Great Obama would be called a racist


Am I wrong

[killersheep]

After the evidence of my Infallibility and your relentless wrongness over the past couple of years, I find it difficult to believe my eyes here. It looks like you're claiming that Kirkland Laing, The Infallible One, is wrong about something! Your arrogance is breathtaking.

...as is your ignorance.

Did I not mention when Barry was running, even in the Primary that any who opposed the Great Obama would be called a racist


Am I wrong

That is a fabrication.

[El Kabong]

Uh no, I believe the race card was used on pretty much everyone even Bill and Hillary Clinton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms45EzMR0f8


.....I LOVE how Garafolo tries to support her claims with Phrenology ...I guess she's finally found something that she sucks at worse than acting, comedy, and radio.

[Kirkland Laing]

After the evidence of my Infallibility and your relentless wrongness over the past couple of years, I find it difficult to believe my eyes here. It looks like you're claiming that Kirkland Laing, The Infallible One, is wrong about something! Your arrogance is breathtaking.

...as is your ignorance.

Did I not mention when Barry was running, even in the Primary that any who opposed the Great Obama would be called a racist


Am I wrong

And as usual you just keep changing the subject. Why are the teabaggers only getting upset now? Where were they the last eight years?