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    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    No.
    its easy to say no. whats ur reason. or r u just a ........


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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    No.
    its easy to say no. whats ur reason. or r u just a fukkin prik
    no need to begin the insults, and i agree with Killa, no, although Jones was impressive and should be consider ONE of the greatest fighters ever, he didn't have the level of competition fighters like Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, etc. had

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    No.
    its easy to say no. whats ur reason. or r u just a fukkin prik
    no need to begin the insults, and i agree with Killa, no, although Jones was impressive and should be consider ONE of the greatest fighters ever, he didn't have the level of competition fighters like Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, etc. had
    a valid point indeed my friend. for me tho skill wise there was no one better. but yeah i see what u mean. if only roy had as good as competion. or was roy so good that the people he fought looked pedestrian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
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    its easy to say no. whats ur reason. or r u just a fukkin prik
    no need to begin the insults, and i agree with Killa, no, although Jones was impressive and should be consider ONE of the greatest fighters ever, he didn't have the level of competition fighters like Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, etc. had
    a valid point indeed my friend. for me tho skill wise there was no one better. but yeah i see what u mean. if only roy had as good as competion. or was roy so good that the people he fought looked pedestrian.
    Skill level? The sucker had hand speed and that is about all. It is easy to look great with incredible hand speed but when you aren't really taking chances against hardly anyone then you can look incredible. I had Montell Griffin ahead in rounds when Jones cheapshotted him on the floor in their first fight. He chose to get disqualified rather than take a points loss and have to admit someone figured out his game.
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    Default Re: IS ROY JONEs THE GREATEST EVER

    I don't know if he is the greatest, but hes one of the greatest.

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    Default Re: IS ROY JONEs THE GREATEST EVER

    Personally, I would go with two things:

    1) It is impossible to determine who the greatest ever is; The caliber of competition changed a lot during the eras and through the weight categories, what should really exist is like a top 20 of the best ever without a ranking from last to first, this is way too subjective and I seriously do not believe we can hold such "roster".
    2) Jones JR belong to the greatest ever; spending something like 10 years without losing a round, that's something indeed, he did damage his legacy toward the end, sure, but then again, how many great ones including ALi did the same thing? Not a big deal if you ask me.

    He should considered in the greatest of all times, I would even dare to say that he might have had the fastest hands ever seen in the business during his prime but like all the other greats, he should not be considered THE greatest, matter of fact, I would dare to put at least one name before him: Sugar Ray Robinson, and even him, I wouldn't venture to say he was THE greatest.
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    Default Re: IS ROY JONEs THE GREATEST EVER

    He's a great fighter, but it's impossible to determine whether he's the greatest. A lot of great fighters in different weight classes in different generations. It's too complicated to ever say with certainty. Certainly a special fighter in our times. I would just leave it at that.

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    He is the greatest fighter I have ever seen -which is since 1986.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    No.
    its easy to say no. whats ur reason. or r u just a fukkin prik
    You gotta be the biggest fukking idiot ever if you think RJJjr is greater than SRR, Joe Lewis, or Ali. Now STFU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    No.
    its easy to say no. whats ur reason. or r u just a fukkin prik
    You gotta be the biggest fukking idiot ever if you think RJJjr is greater than SRR, Joe Lewis, or Ali. Now STFU.
    ha ha. stfu. NO. its my opinion. yes i may be the biggest idiot ever sue me.and yeah ive seen all the guys u just mentioned and i think if a prime roy was around in any of there eras i think he would of been p4p number1
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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post

    its easy to say no. whats ur reason. or r u just a fukkin prik
    You gotta be the biggest fukking idiot ever if you think RJJjr is greater than SRR, Joe Lewis, or Ali. Now STFU.
    ha ha. stfu. NO. its my opinion. yes i may be the biggest idiot ever sue me.and yeah ive seen all the guys u just mentioned and i think if a prime roy was around in any of there eras i think he would of been p4p number1
    OMG. You've just exposed yourself like a true dillhole. Do you even know what "pound for pound" means? You measure it by accomplishments. And Jones is nowhere near what SRR accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post

    You gotta be the biggest fukking idiot ever if you think RJJjr is greater than SRR, Joe Lewis, or Ali. Now STFU.
    ha ha. stfu. NO. its my opinion. yes i may be the biggest idiot ever sue me.and yeah ive seen all the guys u just mentioned and i think if a prime roy was around in any of there eras i think he would of been p4p number1
    OMG. You've just exposed yourself like a true dillhole. Do you even know what "pound for pound" means? You measure it by accomplishments. And Jones is nowhere near what SRR accomplished.
    listen mate. i apolagise for saying ur a fuckin prick. i jumped the gun, my bad, its as simple as this tho from all of the great fighters of seen i think roy jones is the best most skillfull ive seen. and i think he would of been p4p best in any era. who u got as ur number 1. this is why i love this sport and this website, its the difference of opinion that makes it great
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    Default Re: IS ROY JONEs THE GREATEST EVER

    Roy Jones Jr. IS the greatest fighter I've ever seen. He fought from Jr. middleweight to Heavyweight.

    But in his prime, he was in a class by himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post

    You gotta be the biggest fukking idiot ever if you think RJJjr is greater than SRR, Joe Lewis, or Ali. Now STFU.
    ha ha. stfu. NO. its my opinion. yes i may be the biggest idiot ever sue me.and yeah ive seen all the guys u just mentioned and i think if a prime roy was around in any of there eras i think he would of been p4p number1
    OMG. You've just exposed yourself like a true dillhole. Do you even know what "pound for pound" means? You measure it by accomplishments. And Jones is nowhere near what SRR accomplished.
    seriously both you guys need to just cool it down, no need to start thrashing each other, same crap happened just yesterday when Danny G started insulting even though one would talk to him decently at first, and look what happened to him, he's banned, so lets just cool it

    and back to the topic, like Mark TKO i don't think Jones Jr makes my top 20, and if he does he's probably the 20, i'll put together my top 20 and post it later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post

    You gotta be the biggest fukking idiot ever if you think RJJjr is greater than SRR, Joe Lewis, or Ali. Now STFU.
    ha ha. stfu. NO. its my opinion. yes i may be the biggest idiot ever sue me.and yeah ive seen all the guys u just mentioned and i think if a prime roy was around in any of there eras i think he would of been p4p number1
    OMG. You've just exposed yourself like a true dillhole. Do you even know what "pound for pound" means? You measure it by accomplishments. And Jones is nowhere near what SRR accomplished.
    Some people measure it by that... others by SKILL. Accomplishments are contemporary to what ever era the guy fought in

    So you CAN compare jones to fighters from other eras based on the relative SKILL you think he has in comparison.

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