no need to begin the insults, and i agree with Killa, no, although Jones was impressive and should be consider ONE of the greatest fighters ever, he didn't have the level of competition fighters like Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, etc. had
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Skill level? The sucker had hand speed and that is about all. It is easy to look great with incredible hand speed but when you aren't really taking chances against hardly anyone then you can look incredible. I had Montell Griffin ahead in rounds when Jones cheapshotted him on the floor in their first fight. He chose to get disqualified rather than take a points loss and have to admit someone figured out his game.
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I don't know if he is the greatest, but hes one of the greatest.
Personally, I would go with two things:
1) It is impossible to determine who the greatest ever is; The caliber of competition changed a lot during the eras and through the weight categories, what should really exist is like a top 20 of the best ever without a ranking from last to first, this is way too subjective and I seriously do not believe we can hold such "roster".
2) Jones JR belong to the greatest ever; spending something like 10 years without losing a round, that's something indeed, he did damage his legacy toward the end, sure, but then again, how many great ones including ALi did the same thing? Not a big deal if you ask me.
He should considered in the greatest of all times, I would even dare to say that he might have had the fastest hands ever seen in the business during his prime but like all the other greats, he should not be considered THE greatest, matter of fact, I would dare to put at least one name before him: Sugar Ray Robinson, and even him, I wouldn't venture to say he was THE greatest.
Last edited by Nameless; 04-18-2009 at 11:28 AM. Reason: just changed "from one to first" to "from last to first", which makes more sense.
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He's a great fighter, but it's impossible to determine whether he's the greatest. A lot of great fighters in different weight classes in different generations. It's too complicated to ever say with certainty. Certainly a special fighter in our times. I would just leave it at that.
He is the greatest fighter I have ever seen -which is since 1986.![]()
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listen mate. i apolagise for saying ur a fuckin prick. i jumped the gun, my bad, its as simple as this tho from all of the great fighters of seen i think roy jones is the best most skillfull ive seen. and i think he would of been p4p best in any era. who u got as ur number 1. this is why i love this sport and this website, its the difference of opinion that makes it great
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Roy Jones Jr. IS the greatest fighter I've ever seen. He fought from Jr. middleweight to Heavyweight.
But in his prime, he was in a class by himself.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
seriously both you guys need to just cool it down, no need to start thrashing each other, same crap happened just yesterday when Danny G started insulting even though one would talk to him decently at first, and look what happened to him, he's banned, so lets just cool it
and back to the topic, like Mark TKO i don't think Jones Jr makes my top 20, and if he does he's probably the 20, i'll put together my top 20 and post it later
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