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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyUK View Post
    Hatton punches like a heavyweight? wow... I think pac man is on for being one of the most over hyped up fighters by his camp in recent years.
    Didn't you hear Michael Moorer clearly?? ... Moorer said PAC punches so hard like a heavyweight and Hatton gonna be destroyed...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLBBsb4dY_Q


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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Freddie Roach: "Hatton doesn't belong in the ring with pacquiao"

    Michael Moorer: "He (PAC) punches so hard like a heavyweight where Hatton gonna be destroyed"


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5x0tUzBxk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLBBsb4dY_Q
    Roach is right. Hatton only fights one way. His chin is always up in the air, and poor footwork. Very predictable. He always leads with the left hook when he lounge in and followed up by clinch. Sort of repeatition thing.

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Sorry, mistake fixed.. meant to say pac man in the first place. But Michael Moore is a idiot.. he'll be saying Pac Man will be able to knockout Vitali next.

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyUK View Post
    Sorry, mistake fixed.. meant to say pac man in the first place. But Michael Moore is a idiot.. he'll be saying Pac Man will be able to knockout Vitali next.
    haha ... and what's your comment on what Roach has said "Hatton doesn't belong in the ring with pacquiao" ??

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5x0tUzBxk


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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Freddie Roach: "Hatton doesn't belong in the ring with pacquiao"

    Michael Moorer: "He (PAC) punches so hard like a heavyweight where Hatton gonna be destroyed"


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5x0tUzBxkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLBBsb4dY_Q
    Roach is right. Hatton only fights one way. His chin is always up in the air, and poor footwork. Very predictable. He always leads with the left hook when he lounge in and followed up by clinch. Sort of repeatition thing.
    Roach has made silly predictions involving many of the fighters he has trained. And what is this about poor footwork? Are you serious or are you just repeating what Roach has said because you don't know what you are talking about? Hatton's footwork is one of his better qualities. He closes the gap just like that, his footwork is so quick that on occasion because he can sometimes smother his own work. But if anyone thinks Hattons footwork is poor then they are misguided and headed for a big shock come fight night.

    You are underestimating Hatton big time. Expect Hatton to jab his way in and then whilst Manny is dealing with that, to be closing the gap with speedy footwork and then unloading while in close. In this position Hatton will use his strength and not allow Pac to get into a rhythm. As soon as a meaningful blow lands, I can see Pac fighting on the back foot more, and this is where the fight might play into Hatton's advantage.

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Freddie Roach: "Hatton doesn't belong in the ring with pacquiao"

    Michael Moorer: "He (PAC) punches so hard like a heavyweight where Hatton gonna be destroyed"


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5x0tUzBxkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLBBsb4dY_Q
    Roach is right. Hatton only fights one way. His chin is always up in the air, and poor footwork. Very predictable. He always leads with the left hook when he lounge in and followed up by clinch. Sort of repeatition thing.
    Roach has made silly predictions involving many of the fighters he has trained. And what is this about poor footwork? Are you serious or are you just repeating what Roach has said because you don't know what you are talking about? Hatton's footwork is one of his better qualities. He closes the gap just like that, his footwork is so quick that on occasion because he can sometimes smother his own work. But if anyone thinks Hattons footwork is poor then they are misguided and headed for a big shock come fight night.

    You are underestimating Hatton big time. Expect Hatton to jab his way in and then whilst Manny is dealing with that, to be closing the gap with speedy footwork and then unloading while in close. In this position Hatton will use his strength and not allow Pac to get into a rhythm. As soon as a meaningful blow lands, I can see Pac fighting on the back foot more, and this is where the fight might play into Hatton's advantage.
    I just rewatched Hatton-Mallinaggi the other day, and Ricky's footwork is just butt ugly, and you know it too, everybody knows that - c'mon now. No need to sugar coat him. He just march forward and leaps with his punch. And Pac won't be fighting backwards. That's the name of the game for him. He'll be spinning Hatton all night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Freddie Roach: "Hatton doesn't belong in the ring with pacquiao"

    Michael Moorer: "He (PAC) punches so hard like a heavyweight where Hatton gonna be destroyed"


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5x0tUzBxkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLBBsb4dY_Q
    Roach is right. Hatton only fights one way. His chin is always up in the air, and poor footwork. Very predictable. He always leads with the left hook when he lounge in and followed up by clinch. Sort of repeatition thing.
    Roach has made silly predictions involving many of the fighters he has trained. And what is this about poor footwork? Are you serious or are you just repeating what Roach has said because you don't know what you are talking about? Hatton's footwork is one of his better qualities. He closes the gap just like that, his footwork is so quick that on occasion because he can sometimes smother his own work. But if anyone thinks Hattons footwork is poor then they are misguided and headed for a big shock come fight night.

    You are underestimating Hatton big time. Expect Hatton to jab his way in and then whilst Manny is dealing with that, to be closing the gap with speedy footwork and then unloading while in close. In this position Hatton will use his strength and not allow Pac to get into a rhythm. As soon as a meaningful blow lands, I can see Pac fighting on the back foot more, and this is where the fight might play into Hatton's advantage.
    Hatton's footwork is only average... He has that jerky-jerky movement coming in capped with a lunging action but I guess PAC will not be surprised with that kind of average footwork...



    That's easy for PAC to thwart with left checkhook or plain left hook... or PAC just sidesteps, spinning Hatton before throwing his counterpunches...
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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    I'm surprised you both say that. I have always regarded Hattons footwork as one of the best things about him. He certainly won't be pondering around like a Mummy as Oscar was. It was simple to hit, hit, move, hit, turn against Oscar, but it will be so much more difficult to do that against Hatton.

    I don't recall any of Manny's recent opponents having the speed of foot that Ricky has. I really see Hattons ability to get into range, and ready to unload his own shots with quick hands as being a crucial element in this fight. A lot of movement, more jabbing and speed of foot carrying him in close to unload hard, and force Manny in close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I'm surprised you both say that. I have always regarded Hattons footwork as one of the best things about him. He certainly won't be pondering around like a Mummy as Oscar was. It was simple to hit, hit, move, hit, turn against Oscar, but it will be so much more difficult to do that against Hatton.

    I don't recall any of Manny's recent opponents having the speed of foot that Ricky has. I really see Hattons ability to get into range, and ready to unload his own shots with quick hands as being a crucial element in this fight. A lot of movement, more jabbing and speed of foot carrying him in close to unload hard, and force Manny in close.
    Trust me, it will be easy for PAC to nullify Hatton forward movement since PAC has the superior hand and foot speed... The worst thing in Hatton's movement is the part when he leaps or lunge in... This is the part he's most vulnerable to the left hook as what PBF and Lazcano has demonstrated in their respective fight against Hatton... If these righthanders can do that damage (wobble/KO) on Hatton then how much more of the southpaw PAC...
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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Freddie Roach: "Hatton doesn't belong in the ring with pacquiao"

    Michael Moorer: "He (PAC) punches so hard like a heavyweight where Hatton gonna be destroyed"


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5x0tUzBxkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLBBsb4dY_Q
    Roach is right. Hatton only fights one way. His chin is always up in the air, and poor footwork. Very predictable. He always leads with the left hook when he lounge in and followed up by clinch. Sort of repeatition thing.
    Roach has made silly predictions involving many of the fighters he has trained. And what is this about poor footwork? Are you serious or are you just repeating what Roach has said because you don't know what you are talking about? Hatton's footwork is one of his better qualities. He closes the gap just like that, his footwork is so quick that on occasion because he can sometimes smother his own work. But if anyone thinks Hattons footwork is poor then they are misguided and headed for a big shock come fight night.

    You are underestimating Hatton big time. Expect Hatton to jab his way in and then whilst Manny is dealing with that, to be closing the gap with speedy footwork and then unloading while in close. In this position Hatton will use his strength and not allow Pac to get into a rhythm. As soon as a meaningful blow lands, I can see Pac fighting on the back foot more, and this is where the fight might play into Hatton's advantage.
    Forget about Hatton's jab. It will not reach Pac's face. Hatton's 20" arms are too short compare to Pac's 25" Arms. Pac will land 2 jabs on hatton's face before Hatton can even throw his jab in the AIR. Before hatton can Close the gap, I'm sure he will eat those Power left from Pac. The only oway hatton can score points if he gets Dirty & wrestle Pac. Hatton's in a wrong sport. He needs to switch to MMA after this fight.

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Just because someone has the tools doesn't mean they always use them, so Pac has longer arms, doesn't mean he can outjab Hatton. It all depends if Hatton can get inside and use his own jab.
    I think there are a lot (not all ) of Pac "fans" who have seen a couple of his decent fights and think he is God himself, and also some more casual fans who actually use the ODLH fight as some sort of benchmark.Bad idea Hatton is still hungry and more imprtant still capable of living up to his own hype.

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I'm surprised you both say that. I have always regarded Hattons footwork as one of the best things about him. He certainly won't be pondering around like a Mummy as Oscar was. It was simple to hit, hit, move, hit, turn against Oscar, but it will be so much more difficult to do that against Hatton.

    I don't recall any of Manny's recent opponents having the speed of foot that Ricky has. I really see Hattons ability to get into range, and ready to unload his own shots with quick hands as being a crucial element in this fight. A lot of movement, more jabbing and speed of foot carrying him in close to unload hard, and force Manny in close.
    Trust me, it will be easy for PAC to nullify Hatton forward movement since PAC has the superior hand and foot speed... The worst thing in Hatton's movement is the part when he leaps or lunge in... This is the part he's most vulnerable to the left hook as what PBF and Lazcano has demonstrated in their respective fight against Hatton... If these righthanders can do that damage (wobble/KO) on Hatton then how much more of the southpaw PAC...
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    I will not give my trust to the Minister of Pacman propaganda!

    The leaping hook is something that has been awkward to see from Hatton. But with talk from Hatton about the importance of a good stiff jab, then hopefully we will see less of that leaping in from a distance leaving himself wide open to be countered. Hatton can really box well when he puts his mind to it. We won't be seeing the same Hatton that fought Mayweather, and we won't see anything entirely new either. I think its really about getting back to basics, what Hatton did before Kostya...head movement, jabs, combinations, lots of movement. Hatton IS the bigger man, if he can apply the fundamentals well then the opportunities to land on Manny WILL be there. Manny is not unhittable as Marquez, Barrera and Morales all showed. With Hatton looking to be the aggressor Pac might will eat leather and hard. We know Ricky can take big punches, we don't know that about Manny at the higher weights.

    Manny isn't a big puncher anyway, he shocks opponents with speed more than anything. Diaz went down from accumulation, Oscar just decided to give up. Marquez and Barrera both went 12 with Manny without too much stress. I'm sure Hatton can do the same!

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killa From Manila View Post

    Roach is right. Hatton only fights one way. His chin is always up in the air, and poor footwork. Very predictable. He always leads with the left hook when he lounge in and followed up by clinch. Sort of repeatition thing.
    Roach has made silly predictions involving many of the fighters he has trained. And what is this about poor footwork? Are you serious or are you just repeating what Roach has said because you don't know what you are talking about? Hatton's footwork is one of his better qualities. He closes the gap just like that, his footwork is so quick that on occasion because he can sometimes smother his own work. But if anyone thinks Hattons footwork is poor then they are misguided and headed for a big shock come fight night.

    You are underestimating Hatton big time. Expect Hatton to jab his way in and then whilst Manny is dealing with that, to be closing the gap with speedy footwork and then unloading while in close. In this position Hatton will use his strength and not allow Pac to get into a rhythm. As soon as a meaningful blow lands, I can see Pac fighting on the back foot more, and this is where the fight might play into Hatton's advantage.
    Forget about Hatton's jab. It will not reach Pac's face. Hatton's 20" arms are too short compare to Pac's 25" Arms. Pac will land 2 jabs on hatton's face before Hatton can even throw his jab in the AIR. Before hatton can Close the gap, I'm sure he will eat those Power left from Pac. The only oway hatton can score points if he gets Dirty & wrestle Pac. Hatton's in a wrong sport. He needs to switch to MMA after this fight.
    That's the mistake in what you are saying. Tyson had a reach disadvantage over most of his opponents. But he was still able to employ a good, hard jab. It wasn't to maintain distance, it was to hit the opponents head and use that split second to get closer and fire off combinations. Hatton will be doing just that in this fight. In close Hatton can wrestle, but he needs to work his way in close without leaving himself open. A sharp jab will be the key. Using movement Hatton can neutralise the reach disadvantage.

    I really see the jab playing a significant part in this. It's nothing groundbreaking, just a move back to the basics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I'm surprised you both say that. I have always regarded Hattons footwork as one of the best things about him. He certainly won't be pondering around like a Mummy as Oscar was. It was simple to hit, hit, move, hit, turn against Oscar, but it will be so much more difficult to do that against Hatton.

    I don't recall any of Manny's recent opponents having the speed of foot that Ricky has. I really see Hattons ability to get into range, and ready to unload his own shots with quick hands as being a crucial element in this fight. A lot of movement, more jabbing and speed of foot carrying him in close to unload hard, and force Manny in close.
    Trust me, it will be easy for PAC to nullify Hatton forward movement since PAC has the superior hand and foot speed... The worst thing in Hatton's movement is the part when he leaps or lunge in... This is the part he's most vulnerable to the left hook as what PBF and Lazcano has demonstrated in their respective fight against Hatton... If these righthanders can do that damage (wobble/KO) on Hatton then how much more of the southpaw PAC...
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    I will not give my trust to the Minister of Pacman propaganda!

    The leaping hook is something that has been awkward to see from Hatton. But with talk from Hatton about the importance of a good stiff jab, then hopefully we will see less of that leaping in from a distance leaving himself wide open to be countered. Hatton can really box well when he puts his mind to it. We won't be seeing the same Hatton that fought Mayweather, and we won't see anything entirely new either. I think its really about getting back to basics, what Hatton did before Kostya...head movement, jabs, combinations, lots of movement. Hatton IS the bigger man, if he can apply the fundamentals well then the opportunities to land on Manny WILL be there. Manny is not unhittable as Marquez, Barrera and Morales all showed. With Hatton looking to be the aggressor Pac might will eat leather and hard. We know Ricky can take big punches, we don't know that about Manny at the higher weights.

    Manny isn't a big puncher anyway, he shocks opponents with speed more than anything. Diaz went down from accumulation, Oscar just decided to give up. Marquez and Barrera both went 12 with Manny without too much stress. I'm sure Hatton can do the same!



    I think we're finished discussing with these things... As someone pointed out, the jab won't work with Hatton as he has ONLY 20" of arm length compared to PAC's 25" of arm length...

    Movements?? PAC has superior speed than Hatton thus a superior movement... Granting PAC and Hatton has the same speed, how can you catch someone with the same speed as yours?? You can't... and how much more if that someone has more speed than you?? You never will...

    PAC will be PAC as ever and he will shock Hatton with his superior speed, his thousands of slashing and stinging punches coupled with moderate pop...

    The end is near...
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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Pac has the slight reach advantage in this, but as I say that can easily be negated. I keep stressing that Hattons footwork is very good, and along with head movement Hatton will be on Manny before he can blink. Hatton will find leverage for his jab from the good footwork. Didn't Malignaggi supposedly have a very good jab and a reach advantage. It didn't work for him at all.

    It's all well and good saying "so, and so has longer arms therefore his jab will be better than the guy with shorter arms". It doesn't always work like that. Other attributes can take away the advantage of reach.

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