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    Default Re: Arum is a disgrace to boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I'm no defender of Arum but he is right in critisizing the condition of Arreola and McCline. They were like whales marooned on a beach. Ugly stuff.

    The Wright: Williams fight was a good one though so he should keep quiet about that. I don't know why anybody wouldn't want to watch it.
    Agreed Wright/Williams was a quality bout between two top quality fighters, nothing to criticize,

    As for Arreola not much you can do about that but I cant give Chris too much credit for beating McCline, look at the shape Jameel was in, self admited he was retired and they offered him a decent payday that had a big reward and little risk

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    Default Re: Arum is a disgrace to boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    here's a list of fighters that Top Rank has promoted

    Muhammad Ali
    Alexis Arguello
    Iran Barkley
    Michael Carbajal
    Roberto Duran
    George Foreman
    Joe Frazier
    Marvin Hagler
    Thomas Hearns
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Ray Mancini
    Carlos Monzon
    Terry Norris
    Gabriel Ruelas
    Rafael Ruelas
    James Toney
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Jorge Arce
    Jose Luis Castillo
    Martin Castillo
    Joshua Clottey
    Miguel Cotto
    Manny Pacquiao
    Erik Morales
    Nonito Donaire
    Juan Manuel Lopez
    Steven Luevano
    Antonio Margarito
    Kelly Pavlik
    Tommy Morrison
    Hasim Rahman
    Humberto Soto
    Edwin Valero
    Brian Viloria

    pretty damn good names
    Good Research on the list...Top Rank has promoted some quality fighters over the years

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    Default Re: Arum is a disgrace to boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    here's a list of fighters that Top Rank has promoted

    Muhammad Ali
    Alexis Arguello
    Iran Barkley
    Michael Carbajal
    Roberto Duran
    George Foreman
    Joe Frazier
    Marvin Hagler
    Thomas Hearns
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Ray Mancini
    Carlos Monzon
    Terry Norris
    Gabriel Ruelas
    Rafael Ruelas
    James Toney
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Jorge Arce
    Jose Luis Castillo
    Martin Castillo
    Joshua Clottey
    Miguel Cotto
    Manny Pacquiao
    Erik Morales
    Nonito Donaire
    Juan Manuel Lopez
    Steven Luevano
    Antonio Margarito
    Kelly Pavlik
    Tommy Morrison
    Hasim Rahman
    Humberto Soto
    Edwin Valero
    Brian Viloria

    pretty damn good names
    Good Research on the list...Top Rank has promoted some quality fighters over the years
    thanks, goldenboy seems to be onto a good start as well

    Oscar De La Hoya
    Bernard Hopkins
    Shane Mosley
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Librado Andrade
    Jorge Barrios
    Rey Bautista
    Joel Casamayor
    Hugo Cazares
    Juan Diaz
    Jhonny Gonzalez
    Joan Guzman
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Ricky Hatton
    David Haye
    Rocky Juarez
    Michael Katsidis
    Abner Mares
    James Kirkland
    Victor Ortiz
    Rock Allen
    Carlos Hernandez
    Robert Guerrero
    Oscar Larios
    Daniel Ponce DeLeon
    Z Gorres
    Juan Lazcano
    Kassim Ouma
    Gerry Penalosa
    Israel Vazquez
    Winky Wright

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    Default Re: Arum is a disgrace to boxing

    This is not in defense of Arum for I generally consider promoters as a bunch of greedy pimps... Arum criticized Goosen promoted fights and we realized he has some good points and also just being an a$$ on some points...

    But to be fair, Arum has some of the best boxers around and promoted some of the great cards in recent memories... Just like this weekend's fight between Donaire-Martinez and Viloria-Solis, it's a very good card but unfortunately HBO and Shotime didn't pick it up... Arum once again, come out on his own and offer this card to the American public as a PPV priced at $24.95 using his own resources...

    Sometimes he's a "disgrace" and sometimes he does some good things for boxing...
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    Default Re: Arum is a disgrace to boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    here's a list of fighters that Top Rank has promoted

    Muhammad Ali
    Alexis Arguello
    Iran Barkley
    Michael Carbajal
    Roberto Duran
    George Foreman
    Joe Frazier
    Marvin Hagler
    Thomas Hearns
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Ray Mancini
    Carlos Monzon
    Terry Norris
    Gabriel Ruelas
    Rafael Ruelas
    James Toney
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Jorge Arce
    Jose Luis Castillo
    Martin Castillo
    Joshua Clottey
    Miguel Cotto
    Manny Pacquiao
    Erik Morales
    Nonito Donaire
    Juan Manuel Lopez
    Steven Luevano
    Antonio Margarito
    Kelly Pavlik
    Tommy Morrison
    Hasim Rahman
    Humberto Soto
    Edwin Valero
    Brian Viloria

    pretty damn good names
    some fighters i left out were
    Anthony Peterson
    Lamont Peterson
    Demetrius Hopkins
    Kendall Holt
    Fernando Montiel
    Marco Antonio Rubio
    Ulises Solis
    Ricardo Torres

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    Default Re: Arum is a disgrace to boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    This is not in defense of Arum for I generally consider promoters as a bunch of greedy pimps... Arum criticized Goosen promoted fights and we realized he has some good points and also just being an a$$ on some points...

    But to be fair, Arum has some of the best boxers around and promoted some of the great cards in recent memories... Just like this weekend's fight between Donaire-Martinez and Viloria-Solis, it's a very good card but unfortunately HBO and Shotime didn't pick it up... Arum once again, come out on his own and offer this card to the American public as a PPV priced at $24.95 using his own resources...

    Sometimes he's a "disgrace" and sometimes he does some good things for boxing...
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    i wouldn't say he's a disgrace, just at his age he does get a bit bitter at times, you gotta remember he is the founder of one of the oldest promotion companies to still be running, and younger guys like Goosen and GBP are making a lot of noise, plus a lot of Arums biggest names have either left him or retired, or both, such as Morales, Oscar De La Hoya, and Floyd Mayweather Jr., he still puts on great cards, and knows what fans want, and gotta give him credit for going out of his way most of the times to get the biggest fights made, DLH/Pacquiao and Pacquiao/Hatton are 2 good examples

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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    slow-motion battle

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    Quote Originally Posted by scraptime View Post
    Margarito vs Baldomir?


    What exactly is Bob Arum trying to prove by making this fight? A win over Baldomir means absolutley nothing!!!! ( considering plaster hands wins ). Is Bob Arum trying to pove a point of some sort to the CSAC by hosting these worthless fight cards in Tijuana of all places? Nothing against Tijuana itself but I mean come on this is really getting rediculous now. Of all people, he decides to match him up with Baldomerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I bet the only reason Baldomir took this fight is because he desperate for money. I really hope that when the suspension is up nobody in Cali will fight plaster hands. He screwed up in my opinion and should never be allowed to fight ever again in California. Hell he can stay in T.J. and beat on chumps like Baldomir for all I care.( Arum n plaster hands )
    Its rubbish fight and i couldn't care at all for Antonio Margarito, i won't be watching the fight.

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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    It is a rubbish fight and I hope people ignore it the best they can. Baldomir is old and done, and Margarito shouldn't be boxing anywhere.

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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    Baldomir is a good , solid fighter. He was champion for a reason, and it will be no easy fight for Margarito. I hope Baldo shocks him.
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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    Quote Originally Posted by SalTheButcher View Post
    slow-motion battle

    Sal that is exactly what I thought!
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