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Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
If RJJ retired after he beat Ruiz I thinbk a lot of people would have him at least top 10 p4p all time. Same as with Tyson people's judgements are tainted by what happend after his prime
Agreed except for the Mike Tyson part

RJJ doesn't have the accomplishments to be the GOAT, but if we are talking about P4P mythical match ups at 168, he maybe the best ever at that weightclass. I honestly can't see anyone beating him at 168, i think Michael Nunn may of had the best chance.

Because i feel RJJ did have some trouble against Southpaw's, and Michael Nunn at his peak looked like a P4P number 1 fighter. He had the speed/skills/athletic ability the whole package IMO, experts say he did slap with some of his punches at times, and he didn't have much power. But i think when Michael Nunn stood his groud and planted his feet.

Instead of backing off flurrying in an out, he did have pretty good power, as that showed when he won the first KOTY with his scary one punch KO of the very tough Sumbu Kalambay.
Just for the record, when I said "Same as Tyson" I meant the way that people remember his later failings and not his prime. I didn't mean that Tyson would be in most people's p4p top 10 even if he had retired post Spinks.