Pavlik v Froch... Who wins?

[clintuk]

I think I'd go for Pavlik, neither of them are that technically sound but I just reckon Froch would get hit too many times. Pavlik's chin is still proven whereas there's now doubts over Carl's, although I guess you could argue Pavlik may not have been in with a bigger puncher than Froch.

It would be a total slugfest and a great fight, I'd expect Pavlik to win by KO in the last third. But it depends which Kelly and which Carl come to the ring I guess.

Sorry this is absurd. How is Pavliks chin more proven than Froch's when they were both floored by the same guy?

And Pavlik was hurt far more than Froch was, he barely made it out of the third round.

Ok, I realise that sounds silly, but I just meant in the way that he's been hit more times by more world class opposition than Froch has and more often than not has still come out on top. Carl can't, at the moment, claim to have taken on the opposition Pavlik has. But it'd still be a very competitive fight I reckon, if there's any way it can happen at the moment with Abraham pulling at Pavlik.

[HattonTheHammer]

I think I'd go for Pavlik, neither of them are that technically sound but I just reckon Froch would get hit too many times. Pavlik's chin is still proven whereas there's now doubts over Carl's, although I guess you could argue Pavlik may not have been in with a bigger puncher than Froch.

It would be a total slugfest and a great fight, I'd expect Pavlik to win by KO in the last third. But it depends which Kelly and which Carl come to the ring I guess.

Sorry this is absurd. How is Pavliks chin more proven than Froch's when they were both floored by the same guy?

And Pavlik was hurt far more than Froch was, he barely made it out of the third round.

Ok, I realise that sounds silly, but I just meant in the way that he's been hit more times by more world class opposition than Froch has and more often than not has still come out on top. Carl can't, at the moment, claim to have taken on the opposition Pavlik has. But it'd still be a very competitive fight I reckon, if there's any way it can happen at the moment with Abraham pulling at Pavlik.

opposition...NO

But an unbeaten pascal hit him with half a dozen monster shots and he took those as well as walking through taylors hook and overhands in the last round to insure he got he`s off!!

[clintuk]

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opposition...NO

But an unbeaten pascal hit him with half a dozen monster shots and he took those as well as walking through taylors hook and overhands in the last round to insure he got he`s off!![/quote]

You know what, you're right, I'm havin' an off day I think. One o those think before you speak moments. I'd still go for Kelly late round KO though.

[Fenster]

Pavlik could make Froch look like Roy Jones.

Good fight. Think Froch would prove to be too big and strong. Although he'd have to deal with Pavlik's righthand - not a cert.

[smashup]

Pick em for me..

Kelly can and would def land that right all night long though.

[HattonTheHammer]

Pick em for me..

Kelly can and would def land that right all night long though.

Froch struggled with taylors power often and despite out working him kept having to work on the back foot because of jermain.

Pavlik would give froch nightmares and would throw 8-10 combos that would do a lot of damage.

Kelly is also a much more intelligent fighter than taylor

[AdamGB]

I think I'd go for Pavlik, neither of them are that technically sound but I just reckon Froch would get hit too many times. Pavlik's chin is still proven whereas there's now doubts over Carl's, although I guess you could argue Pavlik may not have been in with a bigger puncher than Froch.

It would be a total slugfest and a great fight, I'd expect Pavlik to win by KO in the last third. But it depends which Kelly and which Carl come to the ring I guess.

Sorry this is absurd. How is Pavliks chin more proven than Froch's when they were both floored by the same guy?

And Pavlik was hurt far more than Froch was, he barely made it out of the third round.

Ok, I realise that sounds silly, but I just meant in the way that he's been hit more times by more world class opposition than Froch has and more often than not has still come out on top. Carl can't, at the moment, claim to have taken on the opposition Pavlik has. But it'd still be a very competitive fight I reckon, if there's any way it can happen at the moment with Abraham pulling at Pavlik.

Mate, forget the level of opposition. Obviously that's a factor when it comes to assessing relative boxing skill etc but when it comes to getting hit on the chin the power in the punch is more important than the guy's boxrec page.

Watch his fights and look at the punches that hit him.

Froch's problem is that we've got too good an idea of how good his chin is... the fucker blocks punches with his chin half the time.

Like I've said, fair enough when talking about his boxing skill and future prospects obviously the guy's records are going to come into it but you just have to look at the bloke to see that his chin is at worst solid and that he's extremely well conditioned (and fuck me he needs to be!!) and not boxrec.

And yeah Rozzy, Froch looked bigger. Much thicker legs (Taylor's calves looked almost non existent compared to Froch) and a much wider back span.