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I think I'd go for Pavlik, neither of them are that technically sound but I just reckon Froch would get hit too many times. Pavlik's chin is still proven whereas there's now doubts over Carl's, although I guess you could argue Pavlik may not have been in with a bigger puncher than Froch.

It would be a total slugfest and a great fight, I'd expect Pavlik to win by KO in the last third. But it depends which Kelly and which Carl come to the ring I guess.

Sorry this is absurd. How is Pavliks chin more proven than Froch's when they were both floored by the same guy?

And Pavlik was hurt far more than Froch was, he barely made it out of the third round.
Ok, I realise that sounds silly, but I just meant in the way that he's been hit more times by more world class opposition than Froch has and more often than not has still come out on top. Carl can't, at the moment, claim to have taken on the opposition Pavlik has. But it'd still be a very competitive fight I reckon, if there's any way it can happen at the moment with Abraham pulling at Pavlik.
Mate, forget the level of opposition. Obviously that's a factor when it comes to assessing relative boxing skill etc but when it comes to getting hit on the chin the power in the punch is more important than the guy's boxrec page.

Watch his fights and look at the punches that hit him.

Froch's problem is that we've got too good an idea of how good his chin is... the fucker blocks punches with his chin half the time.

Like I've said, fair enough when talking about his boxing skill and future prospects obviously the guy's records are going to come into it but you just have to look at the bloke to see that his chin is at worst solid and that he's extremely well conditioned (and fuck me he needs to be!!) and not boxrec.

And yeah Rozzy, Froch looked bigger. Much thicker legs (Taylor's calves looked almost non existent compared to Froch) and a much wider back span.