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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Jones Jr/ Tarver 1, thought Jones won by a couple of rounds.
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    Me too! When I finally got round to watching that fight after all the talk of Tarver getting robbed, I just didn't see it.

    Jones was far more effective in my eyes. Tarvers little flurries didn't do much but make the crowd a little noisier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Jones Jr/ Tarver 1, thought Jones won by a couple of rounds.
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    Me too! When I finally got round to watching that fight after all the talk of Tarver getting robbed, I just didn't see it.

    Jones was far more effective in my eyes. Tarvers little flurries didn't do much but make the crowd a little noisier.
    Jones' body shots were menacing!
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    Default Re: Opinions on fights that confuse you

    Some great ones there Thirdman! That Navarro scorecard still has me scratching my head.

    The recent Martinez/ Cintron fight still has me confused! Martinez should have won twice, the KO & then on the cards but only managed a draw
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    I am always confused with the goings on in boxing.

    DLH V Trinidad still has me puzzled, a clear winner DLH loses on decision and having viewed the fight many times still cannot give Tito any rounds from 2-9? Round 1 was anyone's guess. I gave it to DLH anyway and scored the fight 117-111

    DLH V Mosley 2 again was a great effort by DLH not rewarded, he lost the first fight by a MD yet Mosley clearly won that fight, he loses the second fight by UD in which he clearly beats Mosley?? WTF?

    There are many others, Steele stops the Taylor V Chavez fight with 3 seconds to go?

    The Whitaker draw with Chavez? Why no rematch? Whitaker clearly won that fight.

    Duran...No Mas? did he really have the s hits?

    Navarro scorecard 120-108 v Cristian Mijares WTF happened there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    There are many others, Steele stops the Taylor V Chavez fight with 3 seconds to go?
    Because Taylor was gone, he had swallowed a pint and a half of his own blood (according to his own trainer, Lou Duva) and had a broken eye orbital.

    Sure he could of won, even if he had taken another Chavez right hand, but Steele's sole responsibility is that of protecting the fighters, he is not the timekeeper, and he made his (right) call.

    Duran...No Mas? did he really have the s hits?
    My theory is that Duran was not properly focused and was simply fustrated with Leonard's tactics and justified walking away because in his opinion; Leonard was not fighting.

    I suspect soon after the bout, Duran realized his error and tried to dig himself out of the hole he had created....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    There are many others, Steele stops the Taylor V Chavez fight with 3 seconds to go?

    The Whitaker draw with Chavez? Why no rematch? Whitaker clearly won that fight.
    Because Taylor was gone, he had swallowed a pint and a half of his own blood (according to his own trainer, Lou Duva) and had a broken eye orbital.

    Sure he could of won, even if he had taken another Chavez right hand, but Steele's sole responsibility is that of protecting the fighters, he is not the timekeeper, and he made his (right) call.

    Duran...No Mas? did he really have the s hits?
    My theory is that Duran was not properly focused and was simply fustrated with Leonard's tactics and justified walking away because in his opinion; Leonard was not fighting.

    I suspect soon after the bout, Duran realized his error and tried to dig himself out of the hole he had created....
    The Taylor one is valid, those injuries are bad and i think Steele should be forgiven for that one, The Duran No Mas is interesting in that the fight was judged to be close on the scorecards at the time of his quitting, it's all still puzzling as he quits half way through the fight? Frustration, the s hits or his condition simply gave way, what ever the reason it's still one of the biggest mysteries in boxing history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    There are many others, Steele stops the Taylor V Chavez fight with 3 seconds to go?

    The Whitaker draw with Chavez? Why no rematch? Whitaker clearly won that fight.
    Because Taylor was gone, he had swallowed a pint and a half of his own blood (according to his own trainer, Lou Duva) and had a broken eye orbital.

    Sure he could of won, even if he had taken another Chavez right hand, but Steele's sole responsibility is that of protecting the fighters, he is not the timekeeper, and he made his (right) call.

    Duran...No Mas? did he really have the s hits?
    My theory is that Duran was not properly focused and was simply fustrated with Leonard's tactics and justified walking away because in his opinion; Leonard was not fighting.

    I suspect soon after the bout, Duran realized his error and tried to dig himself out of the hole he had created....
    The Taylor one is valid, those injuries are bad and i think Steele should be forgiven for that one, The Duran No Mas is interesting in that the fight was judged to be close on the scorecards at the time of his quitting, it's all still puzzling as he quits half way through the fight? Frustration, the s hits or his condition simply gave way, what ever the reason it's still one of the biggest mysteries in boxing history.
    Third Man, I agree with your original point on Taylor-Chavez. Steele has a history of making questionable quick decisions.

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    Default Re: Opinions on fights that confuse you

    Here are a few that always confuse and sometimes aggravate me.

    Ali - Frazier II
    Ali - Norton III
    Foreman - Schultz
    Foreman - Briggs
    Not on the same level but Burton vs Augustus
    Dale Brown - Oneill Bell
    Holyfield - Valuev
    De La Hoya - Trinidad as well as Mosley II
    Hagler - Leonard

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    Default Re: Opinions on fights that confuse you

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    Here are a few that always confuse and sometimes aggravate me.

    Ali - Frazier II
    Ali - Norton III
    Foreman - Schultz
    Foreman - Briggs
    Not on the same level but Burton vs Augustus
    Dale Brown - Oneill Bell
    Holyfield - Valuev
    De La Hoya - Trinidad as well as Mosley II
    Hagler - Leonard
    I didn't give Foreman a round in the Schultz fight. That was awful. But Schultz did get another shot at a title so it was no foul there. Saw Valuev-Holyfield on youtube. Thought Holy clearly outboxed the giant. De La Hoya versus Trinidad was pure stupidity on Oscars part the way he ran the last three rounds.
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