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    Default Re: As weird as this sounds, I'm disappointed Froch won on Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Lets judge him more on his next fight i think the nerves and occasion got to him to much this time but bottom line is he got the win.
    Was just going to say the exact same thing, granted Froch isn't exactly the most technically honed/tight fighter but I think the size/level of the occasion really got to him.

    He looks nervous, almost scared before the fight... He's went from fighting people relativly unknown outside of the boxing circuits in his home town (let alone country) to fighting a big marquee name in America, a top (if past prime) world class fighter and former undisputed MW champ with two wins over B Hopkins.

    After KOing Taylor I can't really see him having any sort of nerves with the other top SMW so we should judge him properly off his next bout.

    I think Froch sees himself as an equal or more to the likes of Bute/Kessler... but what ever he fronts surely he'd have to have seen Taylor's pedigree and know that despite Pascal being a solid fighter he was a relative unkown quantity versus Taylor.

    Nerves shouldn't be a factor next time out and I just hope that whatever he says to the T.V. Cameras he looks very hard at the portions of the fight that he lost and learns from it.

    Yeah even the great Calzaghe stuttered stateside against the top names and was dropped in both fights. The pressure of fighting a legend in front of a partisan crowd on the biggest stage has to be extreme.

    Not many fighters win mega fights away from home, in fact Calzaghe and Haye are the only ones I can think of. Hatton lost when he faced Floyd, his other American opp hasn't been top tier and he's had many fights in the US now to aclimatise.

    Tyszu lost in England, Mclellen lost in England, Cordoba lost in Ireland, Kessler lost in the UK.

    Off the top of my head I can't think of any fighter who has gone overseas to fight a massive name opponent and won without at least getting floored in recent times?

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    Default Re: As weird as this sounds, I'm disappointed Froch won on Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Lets judge him more on his next fight i think the nerves and occasion got to him to much this time but bottom line is he got the win.
    Was just going to say the exact same thing, granted Froch isn't exactly the most technically honed/tight fighter but I think the size/level of the occasion really got to him.

    He looks nervous, almost scared before the fight... He's went from fighting people relativly unknown outside of the boxing circuits in his home town (let alone country) to fighting a big marquee name in America, a top (if past prime) world class fighter and former undisputed MW champ with two wins over B Hopkins.

    After KOing Taylor I can't really see him having any sort of nerves with the other top SMW so we should judge him properly off his next bout.

    I think Froch sees himself as an equal or more to the likes of Bute/Kessler... but what ever he fronts surely he'd have to have seen Taylor's pedigree and know that despite Pascal being a solid fighter he was a relative unkown quantity versus Taylor.

    Nerves shouldn't be a factor next time out and I just hope that whatever he says to the T.V. Cameras he looks very hard at the portions of the fight that he lost and learns from it.

    Yeah even the great Calzaghe stuttered stateside against the top names and was dropped in both fights. The pressure of fighting a legend in front of a partisan crowd on the biggest stage has to be extreme.

    Not many fighters win mega fights away from home, in fact Calzaghe and Haye are the only ones I can think of. Hatton lost when he faced Floyd, his other American opp hasn't been top tier and he's had many fights in the US now to aclimatise.

    Tyszu lost in England, Mclellen lost in England, Cordoba lost in Ireland, Kessler lost in the UK.

    Off the top of my head I can't think of any fighter who has gone overseas to fight a massive name opponent and won without at least getting floored in recent times?
    Off the top of my head I can only think of Arthur Abraham v Edison Miranda, but Miranda is by no means a massive name.

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    Default Re: As weird as this sounds, I'm disappointed Froch won on Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    Was just going to say the exact same thing, granted Froch isn't exactly the most technically honed/tight fighter but I think the size/level of the occasion really got to him.

    He looks nervous, almost scared before the fight... He's went from fighting people relativly unknown outside of the boxing circuits in his home town (let alone country) to fighting a big marquee name in America, a top (if past prime) world class fighter and former undisputed MW champ with two wins over B Hopkins.

    After KOing Taylor I can't really see him having any sort of nerves with the other top SMW so we should judge him properly off his next bout.

    I think Froch sees himself as an equal or more to the likes of Bute/Kessler... but what ever he fronts surely he'd have to have seen Taylor's pedigree and know that despite Pascal being a solid fighter he was a relative unkown quantity versus Taylor.

    Nerves shouldn't be a factor next time out and I just hope that whatever he says to the T.V. Cameras he looks very hard at the portions of the fight that he lost and learns from it.

    Yeah even the great Calzaghe stuttered stateside against the top names and was dropped in both fights. The pressure of fighting a legend in front of a partisan crowd on the biggest stage has to be extreme.

    Not many fighters win mega fights away from home, in fact Calzaghe and Haye are the only ones I can think of. Hatton lost when he faced Floyd, his other American opp hasn't been top tier and he's had many fights in the US now to aclimatise.

    Tyszu lost in England, Mclellen lost in England, Cordoba lost in Ireland, Kessler lost in the UK.

    Off the top of my head I can't think of any fighter who has gone overseas to fight a massive name opponent and won without at least getting floored in recent times?
    Off the top of my head I can only think of Arthur Abraham v Edison Miranda, but Miranda is by no means a massive name.

    Yeah good call on Abraham Lefty. I guess with having already fought him once and having seen Miranda dismantled by Pavlik he was more confident going in.

    Froch had never been in with a top level opponent and until you have it must be in the back of your mind whether you are good enough.

    In Abraham's mind I'm sure he was extremely confident as he won the last fight with a broken jaw in the 5th round. If Miranda couldn't stop him under those circumstances I presume he felt that he could never stop him.

    I love Artur Abraham by the way, one of my favourite fighters, a warrior!

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    Default Re: As weird as this sounds, I'm disappointed Froch won on Saturday

    I was at the fight. 4000 screaming fans. Loud as hell. It was bonkers. Easily one of the top fights I've had the pleasure of attending.

    Hats off to British fight fans or at least Froch/Nottingham fans. With the constant drunken singing, they made the atmosphere tremendous. Not to mention, they were clearly outnumbered and stuck to their guns even after that 3rd round and Americans screaming at them - "he's no Calzaghe" and "U-S-A, U-S-A." And I know Froch is no Hatton or Calzaghe in terms of drawing power, but Nottingham represented. I sat next to six Froch fans who were dressed in Cobra shirts and cheered and sang drunk songs nonstop. I have to ask, however, what does "Smoke his Boots" mean? As in, "Carl, Smoke his Boots!" Either way, maybe it was just these six guys, and although I was rooting for Taylor (loudly), they were just as adament about their "Frochy." We shooks hands when the fight was finished.

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    Default Re: As weird as this sounds, I'm disappointed Froch won on Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I was at the fight. 4000 screaming fans. Loud as hell. It was bonkers. Easily one of the top fights I've had the pleasure of attending.

    Hats off to British fight fans or at least Froch/Nottingham fans. With the constant drunken singing, they made the atmosphere tremendous. Not to mention, they were clearly outnumbered and stuck to their guns even after that 3rd round and Americans screaming at them - "he's no Calzaghe" and "U-S-A, U-S-A." And I know Froch is no Hatton or Calzaghe in terms of drawing power, but Nottingham represented. I sat next to six Froch fans who were dressed in Cobra shirts and cheered and sang drunk songs nonstop. I have to ask, however, what does "Smoke his Boots" mean? As in, "Carl, Smoke his Boots!" Either way, maybe it was just these six guys, and although I was rooting for Taylor (loudly), they were just as adament about their "Frochy." We shooks hands when the fight was finished.
    Slang term for smash him, beat him up etc. Never used up in North England though.

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    Default Re: As weird as this sounds, I'm disappointed Froch won on Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Lets judge him more on his next fight i think the nerves and occasion got to him to much this time but bottom line is he got the win.
    Was just going to say the exact same thing, granted Froch isn't exactly the most technically honed/tight fighter but I think the size/level of the occasion really got to him.

    He looks nervous, almost scared before the fight... He's went from fighting people relativly unknown outside of the boxing circuits in his home town (let alone country) to fighting a big marquee name in America, a top (if past prime) world class fighter and former undisputed MW champ with two wins over B Hopkins.

    After KOing Taylor I can't really see him having any sort of nerves with the other top SMW so we should judge him properly off his next bout.

    I think Froch sees himself as an equal or more to the likes of Bute/Kessler... but what ever he fronts surely he'd have to have seen Taylor's pedigree and know that despite Pascal being a solid fighter he was a relative unkown quantity versus Taylor.

    Nerves shouldn't be a factor next time out and I just hope that whatever he says to the T.V. Cameras he looks very hard at the portions of the fight that he lost and learns from it.

    Yeah even the great Calzaghe stuttered stateside against the top names and was dropped in both fights. The pressure of fighting a legend in front of a partisan crowd on the biggest stage has to be extreme.

    Not many fighters win mega fights away from home, in fact Calzaghe and Haye are the only ones I can think of. Hatton lost when he faced Floyd, his other American opp hasn't been top tier and he's had many fights in the US now to aclimatise.

    Tyszu lost in England, Mclellen lost in England, Cordoba lost in Ireland, Kessler lost in the UK.

    Off the top of my head I can't think of any fighter who has gone overseas to fight a massive name opponent and won without at least getting floored in recent times?
    Maybe not top level, but I didn't see Luevano beating Cook, nevermind flooring him 5 times in his hometown to win a world title. Considering Cook had never lost and was a bookies favourite I think thats a pretty good example.

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    Default Re: As weird as this sounds, I'm disappointed Froch won on Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    Was just going to say the exact same thing, granted Froch isn't exactly the most technically honed/tight fighter but I think the size/level of the occasion really got to him.

    He looks nervous, almost scared before the fight... He's went from fighting people relativly unknown outside of the boxing circuits in his home town (let alone country) to fighting a big marquee name in America, a top (if past prime) world class fighter and former undisputed MW champ with two wins over B Hopkins.

    After KOing Taylor I can't really see him having any sort of nerves with the other top SMW so we should judge him properly off his next bout.

    I think Froch sees himself as an equal or more to the likes of Bute/Kessler... but what ever he fronts surely he'd have to have seen Taylor's pedigree and know that despite Pascal being a solid fighter he was a relative unkown quantity versus Taylor.

    Nerves shouldn't be a factor next time out and I just hope that whatever he says to the T.V. Cameras he looks very hard at the portions of the fight that he lost and learns from it.

    Yeah even the great Calzaghe stuttered stateside against the top names and was dropped in both fights. The pressure of fighting a legend in front of a partisan crowd on the biggest stage has to be extreme.

    Not many fighters win mega fights away from home, in fact Calzaghe and Haye are the only ones I can think of. Hatton lost when he faced Floyd, his other American opp hasn't been top tier and he's had many fights in the US now to aclimatise.

    Tyszu lost in England, Mclellen lost in England, Cordoba lost in Ireland, Kessler lost in the UK.

    Off the top of my head I can't think of any fighter who has gone overseas to fight a massive name opponent and won without at least getting floored in recent times?
    Maybe not top level, but I didn't see Luevano beating Cook, nevermind flooring him 5 times in his hometown to win a world title. Considering Cook had never lost and was a bookies favourite I think thats a pretty good example.

    Yeah good call, that was a good performance that.

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