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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    In all honesty, the way Hatton has now been destroyed by the two top dogs he's faced, can only bring to my mind that maybe he was ranked a bit too high on the p4p list to begin with. Top 10? I don't think he ever belonged there. Top 20? That would've been fine.
    I think the fact he absolutely ruled 140, and did travel okay at 147. He wasn't nearly the force he was once he moved up though. And Floyd was just the freak of our era. He was a big fast guy at 147, and Hatton just wasn't strong enough there.. I think it was fair for him to be top 10 as far as his winning ability, but he was always there to be beaten by fast guys who could time him right.. But that is only a select few, hence he was up there in the p4p's, but never top 3 or 4.
    I don't know that I would agree that he did "okay" at 147. First time he ventures out of 140, he gets wobbled and barely escapes against the light-hitting Luis Collazo. Then gets KO'ed by Mayweather. Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147 (Cotto, Margarito, Clottey), he would have been annihilated. At 140, he beat Kostya Tszyu in a fight I've never liked due to Hatton's mauling style, and the fact he got away with things he would've never gotten away with anywhere else. His KO of Castillo was impressive, in that it was a one-punch body shot. But other than that, his resume has never said top 10 p4p to me.
    Mayweather is better than Cotto, Marg and Clottey all put together. So how can you say "Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147"?

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
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    I think the fact he absolutely ruled 140, and did travel okay at 147. He wasn't nearly the force he was once he moved up though. And Floyd was just the freak of our era. He was a big fast guy at 147, and Hatton just wasn't strong enough there.. I think it was fair for him to be top 10 as far as his winning ability, but he was always there to be beaten by fast guys who could time him right.. But that is only a select few, hence he was up there in the p4p's, but never top 3 or 4.
    I don't know that I would agree that he did "okay" at 147. First time he ventures out of 140, he gets wobbled and barely escapes against the light-hitting Luis Collazo. Then gets KO'ed by Mayweather. Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147 (Cotto, Margarito, Clottey), he would have been annihilated. At 140, he beat Kostya Tszyu in a fight I've never liked due to Hatton's mauling style, and the fact he got away with things he would've never gotten away with anywhere else. His KO of Castillo was impressive, in that it was a one-punch body shot. But other than that, his resume has never said top 10 p4p to me.
    Mayweather is better than Cotto, Marg and Clottey all put together. So how can you say "Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147"?
    Are you on "crack"? Mayweather's elite... just not at 147. What part of that don't you understand? This is boxing. You can be great at one weight and not at another. Again... Hatton never met an elite 147-pound fighter.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

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    I don't know that I would agree that he did "okay" at 147. First time he ventures out of 140, he gets wobbled and barely escapes against the light-hitting Luis Collazo. Then gets KO'ed by Mayweather. Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147 (Cotto, Margarito, Clottey), he would have been annihilated. At 140, he beat Kostya Tszyu in a fight I've never liked due to Hatton's mauling style, and the fact he got away with things he would've never gotten away with anywhere else. His KO of Castillo was impressive, in that it was a one-punch body shot. But other than that, his resume has never said top 10 p4p to me.
    Mayweather is better than Cotto, Marg and Clottey all put together. So how can you say "Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147"?
    Are you on "crack"? Mayweather's elite... just not at 147. What part of that don't you understand? This is boxing. You can be great at one weight and not at another. Again... Hatton never met an elite 147-pound fighter.

    He fought and outpointed the linear undisputed world welterweight champion in Carlos Baldimor and defeated the previous undisputed world welterweight champion in Zab Judah what more do you want

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Mayweather is better than Cotto, Marg and Clottey all put together. So how can you say "Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147"?
    Are you on "crack"? Mayweather's elite... just not at 147. What part of that don't you understand? This is boxing. You can be great at one weight and not at another. Again... Hatton never met an elite 147-pound fighter.

    He fought and outpointed the linear undisputed world welterweight champion in Carlos Baldimor and defeated the previous undisputed world welterweight champion in Zab Judah what more do you want
    C'mon Bilbo... I'll give Floyd all the props you want. The guy's an ATG, and has done remarkable things in boxing. But that still doesn't take away the fact that he's in over his head against the elites at 147. The fact that he has carefully avoided the likes of Margarito, Mosley, and Cotto should give you SOME inkling about what I'm talking about.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    To get back on topic, was a sick, sick KO. Ricky was still well into lala land when they had already pulled his gumshield and were rolling him on his side in case his tongue was down his throat. Scary stuff...

    Was good to see him on his feet, gettin the news, "Ya dude. you're in Vegas, just got KTFO!" lol

    Glad he is ok.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Well all i got to say is i really question Hattons chin really i mean Pac is not a one punch kinda of power knock out artist and he took him out fast. Then there was the fact he got koed by Mayweather who is not power puncher either. I mean look Pac was landing at will on Oscar and he could not even knock him out and he was hitting him so much it was bad.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Well Rjj i dont think Mayweather was really not much better then Mosley at the weight and still think if he came back it would be a close fight to. As for the Dela Hoya win not sure how much water that really holds anymore because he looked pretty bad in his last times out could be because of weight but maybe he didnt really have it anymore after the Vargas fight because he really didnt seem the same after it but who knows how much he really had left in the tank tell you the truth.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well all i got to say is i really question Hattons chin really i mean Pac is not a one punch kinda of power knock out artist and he took him out fast. Then there was the fact he got koed by Mayweather who is not power puncher either. I mean look Pac was landing at will on Oscar and he could not even knock him out and he was hitting him so much it was bad.
    I think you need a physics lesson. If Hatton had stood off Pac and just kept his guard up he would have eaten leather all night the same way DLH did. But he lunged in in the same naive fashion he did against Mayweather, instead of using his 'newly acquired skills' to box his way in and rough Pac up. The reason for the ferocity and power of the KO is simple: the incredible speed at which Pac through the punch + the force of Hatton's own momentum carrying him into the punch = KO power. It's the equivalent of launching your face at a large doorknob. You could see after the first round the flurries had already reddened Hatton's face, and it would have ended up like DLH's had the fight gone on. Really disappointed with Hatton - he didn't give himself a chance. On the other hand, I don't begrudge Pac the win, because he is a similar character to Hatton, only more dedicated to the sport. He also never made things personal, and showed great respect to Hatton at all times. I sincerely hope he knocks PBF right out of the ring, though my gut feeling is Floyd will outbox him.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well all i got to say is i really question Hattons chin really i mean Pac is not a one punch kinda of power knock out artist and he took him out fast. Then there was the fact he got koed by Mayweather who is not power puncher either. I mean look Pac was landing at will on Oscar and he could not even knock him out and he was hitting him so much it was bad.

    Well to give the other side of the argument,Pac has won 2 of his last 3 with a one punch KO so I think you are wrong in what you are saying.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well all i got to say is i really question Hattons chin really i mean Pac is not a one punch kinda of power knock out artist and he took him out fast. Then there was the fact he got koed by Mayweather who is not power puncher either. I mean look Pac was landing at will on Oscar and he could not even knock him out and he was hitting him so much it was bad.
    Hattons chin might have lost a bit of resistance over the years.

    But his chin had nothing to do with getting KO'd last night. That was a loaded punch from Pac. Coming in like hatton was that punch would have iced quite a few solid chins.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    At thought at first, Ricky was paralized from neck down. But thank god nothing serious happened. Hatton was already out before he violently slammed the back of his head on the canvas. It was very similar to Roy Jones KO.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

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    I don't know that I would agree that he did "okay" at 147. First time he ventures out of 140, he gets wobbled and barely escapes against the light-hitting Luis Collazo. Then gets KO'ed by Mayweather. Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147 (Cotto, Margarito, Clottey), he would have been annihilated. At 140, he beat Kostya Tszyu in a fight I've never liked due to Hatton's mauling style, and the fact he got away with things he would've never gotten away with anywhere else. His KO of Castillo was impressive, in that it was a one-punch body shot. But other than that, his resume has never said top 10 p4p to me.
    Mayweather is better than Cotto, Marg and Clottey all put together. So how can you say "Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147"?
    Are you on "crack"? Mayweather's elite... just not at 147. What part of that don't you understand? This is boxing. You can be great at one weight and not at another. Again... Hatton never met an elite 147-pound fighter.
    Mayweather is way better than any of them at 147. Hell he moved upto 154 and beat a good ODLH there. Yes the same Oscar that Tito stole a decision from and also Mosley second time round who has just destroyed Margarito who destroyed Cotto. Your the one who is on crack!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
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    Mayweather is better than Cotto, Marg and Clottey all put together. So how can you say "Had he ever met an elite fighter at 147"?
    Are you on "crack"? Mayweather's elite... just not at 147. What part of that don't you understand? This is boxing. You can be great at one weight and not at another. Again... Hatton never met an elite 147-pound fighter.
    Mayweather is way better than any of them at 147. Hell he moved upto 154 and beat a good ODLH there. Yes the same Oscar that Tito stole a decision from and also Mosley second time round who has just destroyed Margarito who destroyed Cotto. Your the one who is on crack!
    You're funny, kid. "Way better than any of them at 147" eh? You sound like a blind, PBF nut-hugger. Your logic makes no sense, but what else to expect? Get back to me when you get your head out of Floyd's ass, will you?

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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Are you on "crack"? Mayweather's elite... just not at 147. What part of that don't you understand? This is boxing. You can be great at one weight and not at another. Again... Hatton never met an elite 147-pound fighter.
    Mayweather is way better than any of them at 147. Hell he moved upto 154 and beat a good ODLH there. Yes the same Oscar that Tito stole a decision from and also Mosley second time round who has just destroyed Margarito who destroyed Cotto. Your the one who is on crack!
    You're funny, kid. "Way better than any of them at 147" eh? You sound like a blind, PBF nut-hugger. Your logic makes no sense, but what else to expect? Get back to me when you get your head out of Floyd's ass, will you?
    I am by no means a Floyd Nut hugger, and most of the time you'll find me hanging shit on him.. And have even found problems with him in the ring, but anytime I question that, I go back and watch his ability, and whether or not he actually met some of the top guys at 147, he was the best fighter at 147... Sometimes you can't have the showdown to pick who is better out of 2 fighters.. It's better when we do, but purely on performance, Floyd was as Elite as they come...
    Hopefully he can come back and hasn't lost anything, and take those fights at 147 against Pac, Mosley, Williams, and anyone else he needs to fight to prove in the ring he is the best guy at that weight....

    Some can judge a fighter the best by HOW they fight, some can only judge if they are great by WHO the fight...
    I hope Floyd takes some fights that convince the latter, what the former are already convinced of...
    And I hope he hasn't lost anything so there's no excuses..
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    Default Re: Pacquiao KO of Hatton,most devestating since Hearns-Duran

    I have seen some brutal KO's and yes Hearns V Duran was brutal and so was McCallum V Curry. The Pacman's KO of Hatton is up there with some of the most devastating KO's in World Championship Boxing history.

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