mayeather vs pacman

[ICB]

Manny is a much improved fighter since then and your comments about his performance against JMM not only lessen his wins but you also make it sound as if theese guys are run of the mill performers.

What are we to believe because he went the diatance w Oscar Larios that was 3 yrs ago and Larios was one of the best in the sport at the time,

So you will then play down DLH, Diaz and Hatton...

DLH was not at his best for certain but even so the hammering he took was beyond imaginable,

Diaz not the best in the world but no slouch, and again manhandled

Hatton had not even come close to losing at 140lbs prior to last night, last night he was not only dominated in 2 rds but he was made to look like a novice fighter...

This was a P4P ranked man!!!!

Im not downplaying his wins at all i think your misunderstanding what im saying, im saying that fighters that come towards Manny Pacquiao plays into Manny Pacquiao's hands. Fighters who make Manny Pacquiao come towards them have better success JMM, MAB 2, ETC.

Oscar Larios was a good fighter but he was recently stopped in 3 against Israel Vasquez, and had too move up 2 weightclasses against Manny Pacquiao lets not forget that.

I think people are getting a bit too excited over this win, it was a good win and an exciting/brutal one. But that doesn't all of a sudden make him a Floyd Mayweather Jr beater.

I mean before the Ricky Hatton win not many people gave him a chance at Floyd Mayweather Jr, now because he beat a come forward fighter in Ricky Hatton he's suddenly gonna beat Floyd Mayweather Jr ?

Sorry but i don't see it he hasn't suddenly got any better than when he fought JMM in there rematch. He's the same fighter he was then than he is now.

And he still had fits against JMM's counter punching style, and i personally think he lost the fight. Now if he had that much trouble with JMM's counter punching style. What do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr will do ?

He's a better counter puncher than JMM, he's bigger. He has a much better defense and he is quicker. I really think people are going over the top here, and i don't see how beating Ricky Hatton changes his chances against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Tell you what,,,,if the fight comes off you make the bet....

I would confidently take one but i can't do a sig bet, because im a bit on and off on this forum at the moment. And at times i will be off for a few weeks or so, but if you don't mind that we can do that or a rep bet or whatever. Its your call chief.

[hitmanhatton]

are people forgetting how Judah gave PBF trouble for the first half of their fight, and lets not forget that Judah has the mind of a small child who gets distracted and forgets were he is from the 6th round on of all his fights,

Pacquiao is as faster if not faster than Mayweather and this will give Floyd problems, the southpaw style makes him a little uncomfortable too i think and with the power manny has i dont see him throwing away the opportunitys that Zab did

[ICB]

are people forgetting how Judah gave PBF trouble for the first half of their fight, and lets not forget that Judah has the mind of a small child who gets distracted and forgets were he is from the 6th round on of all his fights,

Pacquiao is as faster if not faster than Mayweather and this will give Floyd problems, the southpaw style makes him a little uncomfortable too i think and with the power manny has i dont see him throwing away the opportunitys that Zab did

Zab Judah is faster than Manny Pacquiao and there not really alike at all, and i don't remember Zab Judah having that much success. He won 3 out of 4 rounds at the start, then Floyd Mayweather Jr worked him out then battered him for the rest of the fight.

And would of stopped him had it not been for that desperate move from Zab Judah in the 10th round. And i don't think Floyd Mayweather Jr has much trouble with Southpaw's he easily beat DeMarcus Corley, Sharmba Mitchell.

And lastly im gonna return the question to you, have you forgotten the trouble Manny Pacquiao had with JMM's counter punching style ? and isn't Floyd Mayweather Jr faster, bigger, stronger, and much better defensively aswell as a better counter puncher than JMM ?

[hitmanhatton]

hmm firstly i would disagree that Judah is faster, secondly yes he took 3 rounds of 4 and then he began to unravel as Judah does, however Pac will be as fresh and eager to go for all 12 rounds or for however long it lasts,

the only two fighters to have rocked mayweather even slightly were southpaws, Corley and Judah, coincedence ?

and using Corley and Mitchell as examples ?? were talking top level fighters here a total different kettle of fish to those two

Floyd wont attack Manny in the way JMM did, yes he counter punched well but after that hed chase Pac down and not just hit him once before getting back on the bike as PBF will do,

intelligent pressure is the name of the game here and Pac will put that on floyd, wait and see

[JonesJrMayweather]

are people forgetting how Judah gave PBF trouble for the first half of their fight, and lets not forget that Judah has the mind of a small child who gets distracted and forgets were he is from the 6th round on of all his fights,

Pacquiao is as faster if not faster than Mayweather and this will give Floyd problems, the southpaw style makes him a little uncomfortable too i think and with the power manny has i dont see him throwing away the opportunitys that Zab did

Are people forgetting that Zab's arms are five inches longer than Pacman's plus two inches taller. The opportunities that Zab had won't be there for Manny. Manny's opportunities won't present themselves in the same light as Judah's. PACMAN will have to look to another strategy. Because Floyd will stay on the outside jabbing until manny reaches for him out of desperation.

[DaxxKahn]

are people forgetting how Judah gave PBF trouble for the first half of their fight, and lets not forget that Judah has the mind of a small child who gets distracted and forgets were he is from the 6th round on of all his fights,

Pacquiao is as faster if not faster than Mayweather and this will give Floyd problems, the southpaw style makes him a little uncomfortable too i think and with the power manny has i dont see him throwing away the opportunitys that Zab did

Judah in no way is faster then pacquiao....not on a consistant basis anyhow

[DaxxKahn]

Im not downplaying his wins at all i think your misunderstanding what im saying, im saying that fighters that come towards Manny Pacquiao plays into Manny Pacquiao's hands. Fighters who make Manny Pacquiao come towards them have better success JMM, MAB 2, ETC.

Oscar Larios was a good fighter but he was recently stopped in 3 against Israel Vasquez, and had too move up 2 weightclasses against Manny Pacquiao lets not forget that.

I think people are getting a bit too excited over this win, it was a good win and an exciting/brutal one. But that doesn't all of a sudden make him a Floyd Mayweather Jr beater.

I mean before the Ricky Hatton win not many people gave him a chance at Floyd Mayweather Jr, now because he beat a come forward fighter in Ricky Hatton he's suddenly gonna beat Floyd Mayweather Jr ?

Sorry but i don't see it he hasn't suddenly got any better than when he fought JMM in there rematch. He's the same fighter he was then than he is now.

And he still had fits against JMM's counter punching style, and i personally think he lost the fight. Now if he had that much trouble with JMM's counter punching style. What do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr will do ?

He's a better counter puncher than JMM, he's bigger. He has a much better defense and he is quicker. I really think people are going over the top here, and i don't see how beating Ricky Hatton changes his chances against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Tell you what,,,,if the fight comes off you make the bet....

I would confidently take one but i can't do a sig bet, because im a bit on and off on this forum at the moment. And at times i will be off for a few weeks or so, but if you don't mind that we can do that or a rep bet or whatever. Its your call chief.

I cant commit to a sig bet myself at the moment...at least until Haye/Wlad beccause I have the bet w lefty already...but we will come up w something