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    Default Re: Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

    I actually think the whole thing has gone to Hatton's head these past few years, since the Tszyu fight Hatton has had an army of fans telling him how wonderful he is and he really has believed them all!!
    He loses to Mayweather, but the excuse is Mayweather is the best fighter in the world, no shame there he thinks. He then fights Paquiao and is not competitive at all for 2 rounds and gets Knocked out cold!
    I can't see how this is his trainer's fault? If his camp wasn't a happy one leading up to the fight i do not see how this made any difference to the demolition job Pacquiao did on him. It sounds more like Hatton was going to do it his way no matter who was in his corner and that's just ego!

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    Default Re: Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I actually think the whole thing has gone to Hatton's head these past few years, since the Tszyu fight Hatton has had an army of fans telling him how wonderful he is and he really has believed them all!!
    He loses to Mayweather, but the excuse is Mayweather is the best fighter in the world, no shame there he thinks. He then fights Paquiao and is not competitive at all for 2 rounds and gets Knocked out cold!
    I can't see how this is his trainer's fault? If his camp wasn't a happy one leading up to the fight i do not see how this made any difference to the demolition job Pacquiao did on him. It sounds more like Hatton was going to do it his way no matter who was in his corner and that's just ego!
    I am not that sure, I think that the fact that your trainer drags too much attention and doesn't seem to care being on time to prepare you for the most important match of your career must play somewhere in a boxer's mind.
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    Default Re: Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

    The problem with fighters like Hatton is that, in the ring, they've got bigger egos than people like Floyd Jr & Sr. have outside of it. Ever since the Kosta Tszyu fight, Hatton deluded himself into thinking that if he could bulldoze Tszyu, then he could bulldoze anybody. He got hit a couple good times by Manny and then he had to prove that he could bulldoze Manny. By the way he fought, you could tell that he NEVER gave Manny any type of respect at 140. And he paid dearly. He didn't listen to Floyd Sr AT ALL!!! I mean the guy came in with his chin out basically from the bell lunging into Manny.

    Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he just retired. With the Floyd KO, Floyd's style allowed him to be competitive in the fight and he was out of his 140 comfort zone so he always found solace in that fact. He still had hope. The Manny KO in his comfort zone of 140 was so brutally fast and dominant that there's no excuse this time. He doesn't wanna box, he wanted to punish Manny using his style and bulldoze him, and instead, Hatton got pulverized. His comfort zone is gone, don't be surprised if you never see Hatton in a ring again.

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    Default Re: Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    The problem with fighters like Hatton is that, in the ring, they've got bigger egos than people like Floyd Jr & Sr. have outside of it. Ever since the Kosta Tszyu fight, Hatton deluded himself into thinking that if he could bulldoze Tszyu, then he could bulldoze anybody. He got hit a couple good times by Manny and then he had to prove that he could bulldoze Manny. By the way he fought, you could tell that he NEVER gave Manny any type of respect at 140. And he paid dearly. He didn't listen to Floyd Sr AT ALL!!! I mean the guy came in with his chin out basically from the bell lunging into Manny.

    Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he just retired. With the Floyd KO, Floyd's style allowed him to be competitive in the fight and he was out of his 140 comfort zone so he always found solace in that fact. He still had hope. The Manny KO in his comfort zone of 140 was so brutally fast and dominant that there's no excuse this time. He doesn't wanna box, he wanted to punish Manny using his style and bulldoze him, and instead, Hatton got pulverized. His comfort zone is gone, don't be surprised if you never see Hatton in a ring again.
    I agree with you here, he seems to forget the Tszyu fight was close until he took Tszyu's balls from underneath him. I wouldn't be surprised if he got knocked out again by someone far less qualified to do it than Manny Paquiao. He is a classic example of a fighter who has believed his own publicity machine and paid the penalty, he gave the Pacman no respect and it showed, i don't think the Floyd snr arrangement was ever going to work when you stop and think of the vastly differeant backgrounds the two come from. If Floyd snr was unproffessional in camp by being late etc then Hatton is equally guilty of disrespecting his opponent and not acting on Floyd snr when he had the chance.
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    If he can't find the answer to that within 6 months then he must give it away before some chump knocks him out again!

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    Default Re: Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

    Hatton lost because of this style.
    Bringing in Floyd Sr. to train him meant nothing.

    In the end Hatton came out his own way and did nothing that was taught to him.

    Hatton lost because of his trademark style which is come forward.
    You wont beat Pac that way, Pac will and has KO'd all of his opponents who decide to trade with him and fight this way.

    Now take fighters who box, counter and use the entire ring and he has problems with them see JMM fight, Erik fight. The way to beat Pac is to box that has been proven by both JMM & Erik.

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    Default Re: Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Hatton lost because of this style.
    Bringing in Floyd Sr. to train him meant nothing.

    In the end Hatton came out his own way and did nothing that was taught to him.

    Hatton lost because of his trademark style which is come forward.
    You wont beat Pac that way, Pac will and has KO'd all of his opponents who decide to trade with him and fight this way.

    Now take fighters who box, counter and use the entire ring and he has problems with them see JMM fight, Erik fight. The way to beat Pac is to box that has been proven by both JMM & Erik.
    Correct, Marquez is the blueprint on how to beat Pacquiao, i don't think Pacman wants to fight Marquez again. We would all love to see a third fight but i doubt it will happen. Hatton fought a dumb fight and saw the door closing but kept on walking right into it! He showed little respect and did little homework on his opponent, all he had to do was watch the first two Pac V Marquez fights and he might have learnt something. I can't wait to see how Mayweather handles him.

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    Default Re: Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Hatton lost because of this style.
    Bringing in Floyd Sr. to train him meant nothing.

    In the end Hatton came out his own way and did nothing that was taught to him.

    Hatton lost because of his trademark style which is come forward.
    You wont beat Pac that way, Pac will and has KO'd all of his opponents who decide to trade with him and fight this way.

    Now take fighters who box, counter and use the entire ring and he has problems with them see JMM fight, Erik fight. The way to beat Pac is to box that has been proven by both JMM & Erik.
    Correct, Marquez is the blueprint on how to beat Pacquiao, i don't think Pacman wants to fight Marquez again. We would all love to see a third fight but i doubt it will happen. Hatton fought a dumb fight and saw the door closing but kept on walking right into it! He showed little respect and did little homework on his opponent, all he had to do was watch the first two Pac V Marquez fights and he might have learnt something. I can't wait to see how Mayweather handles him.
    You know, when I think about Pacquiao vs Mayweather I get the same feeling I had when Trinidad was about to fight Hopkins.

    Trinidad was blasting people out and had only one truly bad performance against Oscar that showed a blueprint how to beat him but no one decided to take advantage of it till he faced someone that was better and could execute that gameplan much better. Mayweather is Pacquiao's Hopkins
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    Default Re: Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Hatton lost because of this style.
    Bringing in Floyd Sr. to train him meant nothing.

    In the end Hatton came out his own way and did nothing that was taught to him.

    Hatton lost because of his trademark style which is come forward.
    You wont beat Pac that way, Pac will and has KO'd all of his opponents who decide to trade with him and fight this way.

    Now take fighters who box, counter and use the entire ring and he has problems with them see JMM fight, Erik fight. The way to beat Pac is to box that has been proven by both JMM & Erik.
    Well said.

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