Nonito Donaire Jr. cracks Ring Mag's Top 10 P4P List

[Violent Demise]

Cuz Donaire whoop's Vic's butt anytime in any weight class - FACT.

People who haven't seen the fight may now think that Donaire put a dominating performance on Darchinyan...which he didn't...the fight was even until the ko...to say that Donaire beats Darchinyan any time is pretty ignorant...

Even?! That's bull and you know it. Did you even see the fight? Donaire pretty much won all rounds. Imo, he dominated round 1 & 3.

Dominate is to strong a word. He was winning

People who haven't seen the fight may now think that Donaire put a dominating performance on Darchinyan...which he didn't...the fight was even until the ko...to say that Donaire beats Darchinyan any time is pretty ignorant...

Even?! That's bull and you know it. Did you even see the fight? Donaire pretty much won all rounds. Imo, he dominated round 1 & 3.

I've seen it,but I'm not so sure what you have seen...

What I saw was Darchinyan lose the first 4 rounds and than get knocked out in the 5th

Congrats Nonito!!!

This is nothing new to me. I already have him in my top 10 since he KOed Darchinyan.

But your an idiot. So who the fukk cares?

WTF!! Why is Vasquez still ranked 5th? I posted this before on another thread and I'm still baffled as to why this fu##ing guy is ranked so high up there. To me there are alot more better candidates that should be ranked over him. I guess if you get in a memorable trilogy and get beaten up and bloodied then you should be considered a p4p fighter even though he has been knocked out 3 times in his career. Why is there no Paul Williams in there? As far as I'm concerned R Marquez can be dropped out of there also. Hell Vlad should be ranked in there for the title defenses and cleaning out the heavies and taking on a former undisputed champion in Haye. Chad Dawson should be in there Thomasz Adamek or even Juan Manuel Lopez would be more fitting then Donaire, Marquez or Vasquez.

Damn. An even bigger idiot. It's pretty fukking clear you know nothing about Boxing and are just using the current popular names. Anybody that is stupid enough to think Adamek () or Lopez () deserves to be ranked over Marquez or Vazquez is a fukking idiot. It's that simple

[jon09]

People who haven't seen the fight may now think that Donaire put a dominating performance on Darchinyan...which he didn't...the fight was even until the ko...to say that Donaire beats Darchinyan any time is pretty ignorant...

Even?! That's bull and you know it. Did you even see the fight? Donaire pretty much won all rounds. Imo, he dominated round 1 & 3.

Dominate is to strong a word. He was winning



What I saw was Darchinyan lose the first 4 rounds and than get knocked out in the 5th

Congrats Nonito!!!

This is nothing new to me. I already have him in my top 10 since he KOed Darchinyan.

But your an idiot. So who the fukk cares?

WTF!! Why is Vasquez still ranked 5th? I posted this before on another thread and I'm still baffled as to why this fu##ing guy is ranked so high up there. To me there are alot more better candidates that should be ranked over him. I guess if you get in a memorable trilogy and get beaten up and bloodied then you should be considered a p4p fighter even though he has been knocked out 3 times in his career. Why is there no Paul Williams in there? As far as I'm concerned R Marquez can be dropped out of there also. Hell Vlad should be ranked in there for the title defenses and cleaning out the heavies and taking on a former undisputed champion in Haye. Chad Dawson should be in there Thomasz Adamek or even Juan Manuel Lopez would be more fitting then Donaire, Marquez or Vasquez.

Damn. An even bigger idiot. It's pretty fukking clear you know nothing about Boxing and are just using the current popular names. Anybody that is stupid enough to think Adamek () or Lopez () deserves to be ranked over Marquez or Vazquez is a fukking idiot. It's that simple

Okay your a jackass. I said that they would be more fitting to be in there not based on popularity or flavor of the month. Those 2 get into a memorable trilogy and all of a sudden there the best in the world. What does that make Gatti and Ward? Vazquez has been knocked out 3 out of 4 times including a 1st round ko. Raphs been knocked out 4 of 5 times. Does that make a p4p fighter? This is for you VD

[Violent Demise]

Even?! That's bull and you know it. Did you even see the fight? Donaire pretty much won all rounds. Imo, he dominated round 1 & 3.

Dominate is to strong a word. He was winning



What I saw was Darchinyan lose the first 4 rounds and than get knocked out in the 5th



But your an idiot. So who the fukk cares?

WTF!! Why is Vasquez still ranked 5th? I posted this before on another thread and I'm still baffled as to why this fu##ing guy is ranked so high up there. To me there are alot more better candidates that should be ranked over him. I guess if you get in a memorable trilogy and get beaten up and bloodied then you should be considered a p4p fighter even though he has been knocked out 3 times in his career. Why is there no Paul Williams in there? As far as I'm concerned R Marquez can be dropped out of there also. Hell Vlad should be ranked in there for the title defenses and cleaning out the heavies and taking on a former undisputed champion in Haye. Chad Dawson should be in there Thomasz Adamek or even Juan Manuel Lopez would be more fitting then Donaire, Marquez or Vasquez.

Damn. An even bigger idiot. It's pretty fukking clear you know nothing about Boxing and are just using the current popular names. Anybody that is stupid enough to think Adamek () or Lopez () deserves to be ranked over Marquez or Vazquez is a fukking idiot. It's that simple

Okay your a jackass. I said that they would be more fitting to be in there not based on popularity or flavor of the month. Those 2 get into a memorable trilogy and all of a sudden there the best in the world. What does that make Gatti and Ward? Vazquez has been knocked out 3 out of 4 times including a 1st round ko. Raphs been knocked out 4 of 5 times. Does that make a p4p fighter? This is for you VD

And Pacquiao has 2 knock out losses. What's your point? It's better when you actually watch Boxing instead of just looking at there records. You actually surprised me. I knew you were an idiot. But I wasn't aware you were that big of an idiot. Your almost a Preme. Who the fukk has Lopez beaten that you would rank him over both Marquez and Vazquez?

[jon09]

Dominate is to strong a word. He was winning



What I saw was Darchinyan lose the first 4 rounds and than get knocked out in the 5th



But your an idiot. So who the fukk cares?



Damn. An even bigger idiot. It's pretty fukking clear you know nothing about Boxing and are just using the current popular names. Anybody that is stupid enough to think Adamek () or Lopez () deserves to be ranked over Marquez or Vazquez is a fukking idiot. It's that simple

Okay your a jackass. I said that they would be more fitting to be in there not based on popularity or flavor of the month. Those 2 get into a memorable trilogy and all of a sudden there the best in the world. What does that make Gatti and Ward? Vazquez has been knocked out 3 out of 4 times including a 1st round ko. Raphs been knocked out 4 of 5 times. Does that make a p4p fighter? This is for you VD

And Pacquiao has 2 knock out losses. What's your point? It's better when you actually watch Boxing instead of just looking at there records. You actually surprised me. I knew you were an idiot. But I wasn't aware you were that big of an idiot. Your almost a Preme. Who the fukk has Lopez beaten that you would rank him over both Marquez and Vazquez?

Okay computer tough guy what is your example of a p4p fighter? Since you seem to know so much about it. I must be arguing with a family member of those 2.

[Violent Demise]

Okay your a jackass. I said that they would be more fitting to be in there not based on popularity or flavor of the month. Those 2 get into a memorable trilogy and all of a sudden there the best in the world. What does that make Gatti and Ward? Vazquez has been knocked out 3 out of 4 times including a 1st round ko. Raphs been knocked out 4 of 5 times. Does that make a p4p fighter? This is for you VD

And Pacquiao has 2 knock out losses. What's your point? It's better when you actually watch Boxing instead of just looking at there records. You actually surprised me. I knew you were an idiot. But I wasn't aware you were that big of an idiot. Your almost a Preme. Who the fukk has Lopez beaten that you would rank him over both Marquez and Vazquez?

Okay computer tough guy what is your example of a p4p fighter? Since you seem to know so much about it. I must be arguing with a family member of those 2.

Only a coward answers a question with a question. Before I answer your idiotic question, answer what was asked of you.

Who the fukk has Lopez beaten that you would rank him over both Marquez and Vazquez?

[miron_lang]

Donaire's destruction of Martinez confirms his capabilities. He should moved up up soon. Darchinyan II would be great for Nonito.

[jon09]

And Pacquiao has 2 knock out losses. What's your point? It's better when you actually watch Boxing instead of just looking at there records. You actually surprised me. I knew you were an idiot. But I wasn't aware you were that big of an idiot. Your almost a Preme. Who the fukk has Lopez beaten that you would rank him over both Marquez and Vazquez?

Okay computer tough guy what is your example of a p4p fighter? Since you seem to know so much about it. I must be arguing with a family member of those 2.

Only a coward answers a question with a question. Before I answer your idiotic question, answer what was asked of you.

Who the fukk has Lopez beaten that you would rank him over both Marquez and Vazquez?

Okay you p.o.s take your own advice and answer mine 1st. WTF is Vazquez ranked 5th? Can I get that out of you Mr boxing guru. You like to act like a 5 year old kid and do the name calling but you have not justified why your cousin is in the p4p rankings.

[Violent Demise]

Okay computer tough guy what is your example of a p4p fighter? Since you seem to know so much about it. I must be arguing with a family member of those 2.

Only a coward answers a question with a question. Before I answer your idiotic question, answer what was asked of you.

Who the fukk has Lopez beaten that you would rank him over both Marquez and Vazquez?

Okay you p.o.s take your own advice and answer mine 1st. WTF is Vazquez ranked 5th? Can I get that out of you Mr boxing guru. You like to act like a 5 year old kid and do the name calling but you have not justified why your cousin is in the p4p rankings.

Are you fukking kidding me? You that clueless? Seriously what the fukk you doing posting here? PM bilbo and ask him for directions to the midget wrestling forums. Cuz you sure as hell don't belong here. You should be a fukking shame of yourself for even asking what Vazquez has done to be on the p4p list. No Boxing fan would ask that question. And the sad part is me telling you what he's done wouldn't do much good. Cuz you have no idea who Rafael Marquez, Oscar Larios, Jhonny Gonzalez, Ivan Hernandez or Jorge Julio even are. So what's the point? All you do is punch in Vazquez name. Or Marquez name and see there record. And your like "OMG he has 5 losses. He sucks." LOL. Fukking idiot

[jon09]

Only a coward answers a question with a question. Before I answer your idiotic question, answer what was asked of you.

Who the fukk has Lopez beaten that you would rank him over both Marquez and Vazquez?

Okay you p.o.s take your own advice and answer mine 1st. WTF is Vazquez ranked 5th? Can I get that out of you Mr boxing guru. You like to act like a 5 year old kid and do the name calling but you have not justified why your cousin is in the p4p rankings.

Are you fukking kidding me? You that clueless? Seriously what the fukk you doing posting here? PM bilbo and ask him for directions to the midget wrestling forums. Cuz you sure as hell don't belong here. You should be a fukking shame of yourself for even asking what Vazquez has done to be on the p4p list. No Boxing fan would ask that question. And the sad part is me telling you what he's done wouldn't do much good. Cuz you have no idea who Rafael Marquez, Oscar Larios, Jhonny Gonzalez, Ivan Hernandez or Jorge Julio even are. So what's the point? All you do is punch in Vazquez name. Or Marquez name and see there record. And your like "OMG he has 5 losses. He sucks." LOL. Fukking idiot

I know exactly who they are and we are basing a p4p standing more or less on a memorable trilogy and beating up cab drivers. If thats the case Vlad is the greatest and should be in the top 5. Oh wait he is a heavyweight and people expect more. Well then Lopez is 25-0 and has beaten Pennalosa, Ponce de leon, Medina and Andrade and should be considered a p4p entrant. If I'm aggravating you then bravo to me.

[JohnnyKickAss]

People who haven't seen the fight may now think that Donaire put a dominating performance on Darchinyan...which he didn't...the fight was even until the ko...to say that Donaire beats Darchinyan any time is pretty ignorant...

Even?! That's bull and you know it. Did you even see the fight? Donaire pretty much won all rounds. Imo, he dominated round 1 & 3.

Dominate is to strong a word. He was winning



What I saw was Darchinyan lose the first 4 rounds and than get knocked out in the 5th

Okay...since I appreciate C-Lo's and VD's opinion I'll have to rewatch the fight in the next days,but I couldn't care less what an overly loud newbie or Taeth are thinking...And don't get me wrong I like Donaire and think he could become a really,really big name...I just don't think that his fight with Darchinyan till the ko was as onesided as people here make it sound(but like I said I'll rewatch the fight and may see it different)...

[Quinito]

Even?! That's bull and you know it. Did you even see the fight? Donaire pretty much won all rounds. Imo, he dominated round 1 & 3.

Dominate is to strong a word. He was winning



What I saw was Darchinyan lose the first 4 rounds and than get knocked out in the 5th

Okay...since I appreciate C-Lo's and VD's opinion I'll have to rewatch the fight in the next days,but I couldn't care less what an overly loud newbie or Taeth are thinking...And don't get me wrong I like Donaire and think he could become a really,really big name...I just don't think that his fight with Darchinyan till the ko was as onesided as people here make it sound(but like I said I'll rewatch the fight and may see it different)...

Yea, good idea. Watch the fight again. You'll see Vic couldn't do diddly squat about Nonito's counter left.

[Majesty]

The point is, Donaire is better than Vic. Hatton beating Pac is different because it's clear that there are more fighter worthy of top 1 e.g. JMM.

Putting Donaire in front of Vic is valid since they're not fighting for the #1 position. It's like Hopkins beating Pavlik. Hope you see the point. You can't put pavlik over Hopkins no matter how inactive hopkins was before the fight.

But im not saying before the fight mate,donaire has done shit all recently. Vic has dominated arce, mijares, kirilov since donaire. Who has donaire beat since that fight? It does not matter about how skilled the fighter seems to be, it goes on what you have done recently. Donaire might of beat a couple of fighters since that fight but were they world class? Are they as good as what those 3 fighters vic dominated? If they are not then vic should be put ahead as he has done much more. P4P has always been about what you have done recently...when they update it the last couple of spots have always been dealt with in a "what have you done for me lately" kind of attitude. I agree the top spots are thought about more because they are at the top and if they are inactive then they get some slack.

Ranking pound for pound really is very tricky. For now, Vic needs to fight Donaire. If he wins, he could jump 3 to 4 spots.

So Vic would need to fight and beat Donaire to be ranked above him.

If p4p was like that then why is Mosley ranked over Cotto?

[DaxxKahn]

People who haven't seen the fight may now think that Donaire put a dominating performance on Darchinyan...which he didn't...the fight was even until the ko...to say that Donaire beats Darchinyan any time is pretty ignorant...

Even?! That's bull and you know it. Did you even see the fight? Donaire pretty much won all rounds. Imo, he dominated round 1 & 3.

Dominate is to strong a word. He was winning



What I saw was Darchinyan lose the first 4 rounds and than get knocked out in the 5th

Congrats Nonito!!!

This is nothing new to me. I already have him in my top 10 since he KOed Darchinyan.

But your an idiot. So who the fukk cares?

WTF!! Why is Vasquez still ranked 5th? I posted this before on another thread and I'm still baffled as to why this fu##ing guy is ranked so high up there. To me there are alot more better candidates that should be ranked over him. I guess if you get in a memorable trilogy and get beaten up and bloodied then you should be considered a p4p fighter even though he has been knocked out 3 times in his career. Why is there no Paul Williams in there? As far as I'm concerned R Marquez can be dropped out of there also. Hell Vlad should be ranked in there for the title defenses and cleaning out the heavies and taking on a former undisputed champion in Haye. Chad Dawson should be in there Thomasz Adamek or even Juan Manuel Lopez would be more fitting then Donaire, Marquez or Vasquez.

Damn. An even bigger idiot. It's pretty fukking clear you know nothing about Boxing and are just using the current popular names. Anybody that is stupid enough to think Adamek () or Lopez () deserves to be ranked over Marquez or Vazquez is a fukking idiot. It's that simple

Agreed, Agreed, and Agreed!!!!!!

To think Vazquez and Marquez are not P4P fighters bhave to be Fargin idiots......

Daqrchinyan did not know what to do with Doniare from opening round!!!! Then he was starched with a single shot and it happens again 9 out of every 10 times!!!!

PacBest2 is an idiot!!!

[Quinito]

I can understand the Vazquez, Marquez, Darchinyan, and Donaire p4p debate. Izzy and Rafa provided the world with probably the greatest trilogy in boxing history ever. But Vic and Nonito has been busy lately, their names are getting bigger and bigger, and they've been winning KO after KO. Rafa and Izzy can't just continue on hiatus and expect people to still put them in p4p list. It's a race out there, and they need to keep up. I understand they had 3 brutal fights. But I think they're already have enough rest. They need to get their butt busy.

[DaxxKahn]

I can understand the Vazquez, Marquez, Darchinyan, and Donaire p4p debate. Izzy and Rafa provided the world with probably the greatest trilogy in boxing history ever. But Vic and Nonito has been busy lately, their names are getting bigger and bigger, and they've been winning KO after KO. Rafa and Izzy can't just continue on hiatus and expect people to still put them in p4p list. It's a race out there, and they need to keep up. I understand they had 3 brutal fights. But I think they're already have enough rest. They need to get their butt busy.

When Vazquez has serious eye issues that why he has not been fighting has nothing to do with resting