Is it possible maywether could be thinking...

**Majesty** · 05-07-2009 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Seeing as how 'LIL FLOYD and leonard ellerbe like to compare how certain fighters did against each other as a reasoning not to fight someone...

I.E. "didnt he score 3 knockdowns and only get a draw?" - PBF when asked about fighting PACMAN...

Isn't is possible that PBF could have convinced himself that if he comes back from a year layoff and beats the man that arguably out boxed pacman twice..that there's no need to face PACMAN, and totally forget to include the fact that PACMAN took out the fighter that went ten rounds with him in two...

I don't think he'd use it to avoid Pacquiao, but he'd use it to hype the fight between them and say he is still p4p the best.

If he says "People say that Pacquiao beat Hatton more impressively then I did. That's cool. But Hatton had no chance with him, just like he had no chance with me. But I beat the guy, that handed Pacquiao his ass twice. So in my eyes, I'm still p4p the best and if he wants that title, he'll have to come and take it, it's money mayweather."

**Galaxy** · 05-07-2009 12:45 AM

Marquez fought Pacquiao to a standstill twice, so if I'm Floyd I'm thinking if I beat this guy in my 1st fight back no one can deny I'm number one!!!

Makes a Pacquiao fight a whole lot more attractive imo!!!

Whoever wins Mayweather/ Marquez (I think Marquez has a chance to pull of the upset) needs to then face Pacquiao to settle any despites!!!

**ElTerribleMorales** · 05-07-2009 12:45 AM

IMO Mayweather still has the more impressive resume

**Taeth** · 05-07-2009 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

IMO Mayweather still has the more impressive resume

How so? I am the biggest mAYWEATHER fan on here, but his two biggest wins were against Hatton and Oscar and Pacquiao beat them both worse along with beating Marquez, Barrera and Morales. Not to mention a whole slew of other solid fighters.

Both have a great resume, but Pacquiao's is clearly better even IMO before he fought De La Hoya and Hatton.

**JonesJrMayweather** · 05-07-2009 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by Taeth

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

IMO Mayweather still has the more impressive resume

How so? I am the biggest mAYWEATHER fan on here, but his two biggest wins were against Hatton and Oscar and Pacquiao beat them both worse along with beating Marquez, Barrera and Morales. Not to mention a whole slew of other solid fighters.

Both have a great resume, but Pacquiao's is clearly better even IMO before he fought De La Hoya and Hatton.

Those were PBF biggest money wins...his wins over, castillo, corrales, hernadez, chavez, manfredy were more impressive than the win over hatton...and the commercial delahoya victory was just young champ against fading champ for money IMO...

pac has two wins over morrales, barrera, and on paper one over JMM..but the asterix on morrales is once zahir raheem gave him a thorough boxing lesson he was done, evidence in him not winning another fight afterwards.

**ElTerribleMorales** · 05-07-2009 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Taeth

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

IMO Mayweather still has the more impressive resume

How so? I am the biggest mAYWEATHER fan on here, but his two biggest wins were against Hatton and Oscar and Pacquiao beat them both worse along with beating Marquez, Barrera and Morales. Not to mention a whole slew of other solid fighters.

Both have a great resume, but Pacquiao's is clearly better even IMO before he fought De La Hoya and Hatton.

and Mayweather has wins against

Genaro Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Diego Corrales (when he was undefeated and was picked to beat Floyd, went on to rule the lightweight division)
Carlos "El Famoso" Hernandez (went on to become the IBF super featherweight champion)
Jesus Chavez (went on to win the WBC super featherweight title, and IBF lightweight title)
Jose Luis Castillo (twice) (went on to rule the lightweight division)
DeMarcus Corley
Arturo Gatti
Zab Judah
Oscar De La Hoya (at 154 and when he had a lot more left than his fight against PAC)
Ricky Hatton (when he was undefeated, and IMO PBF pulled a Tito and pretty much ruined him)

**Quinito** · 05-07-2009 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Taeth

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

IMO Mayweather still has the more impressive resume

How so? I am the biggest mAYWEATHER fan on here, but his two biggest wins were against Hatton and Oscar and Pacquiao beat them both worse along with beating Marquez, Barrera and Morales. Not to mention a whole slew of other solid fighters.

Both have a great resume, but Pacquiao's is clearly better even IMO before he fought De La Hoya and Hatton.

Very true.

I'm sick of Mayweather cherry picking his opponent. I believe Roach is right when he said "Floyd picked Marquez, he couldn't wait one day. I think he's afraid to fight Pacquiao".

**Chino** · 05-07-2009 02:31 PM

BTW no one knew beforehand that Hoya is that weight drained...

Until the night before the fight where Freddy Roach saw how ODLH was badly weight drained and told Pac to just go get him since ODLH had nothing to bring to the ring. He was right. Oscar didn't do anything really but receive punches.

In fact Hoya enjoying being a 2 to 1 favorite... As I've said, stop reading too much into that fight... You're only blinded by Hoya's skeletal physique... and fail to appreciate what PAC has done impressively in that fight...

Put it this way. Remember Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis? On their first fight all it took was a single punch to the jaw to bring Lewis down. Then comes the rematch, Oliver McCall didn't do anything whatsoever but just take punches until it was decided that the fight shouln't go on. Can we really say that Oliver McCall brought the best out of Lewis on that 2nd fight? No way. Same thing with ODLH vs Pac. If ODLH went in there with the arsenal he had in his prime and then lost convincingly then yeah, I would be impressed with Pac's performance but not vs a moving punching bag. Can't really say "moving" punching bag when ODLH barely did that.

Actually, DLH tore his body up so much to get down that he couldn't even get his weight back properly as on fight night he weighed 145, less than Pac. Roach pointed out that DLH have IV marks and that is a desparation attempt to hydrate someone. Before the ring entrance no one knew but DLH knew he was doomed

ODLH looked great even when he lost vs Mosley 1 and Hopkins. He was using all the tricks in his bag, top shape, etc. With Pac, I was surprised I didn't see ANYTHING from him at all.

**Master** · 05-07-2009 05:48 PM

Manny Pac has fought out of the comfort zone and weight, Mayweather could have fought a true welter instead of asking JMM to fight at a weight he has never fought at. Floyd gets no credit from me for this. He would get my respect for fighting men in his own weight like Shane and Cotto. He will hide behind the money argument and a year out but it is all the same BS from Floyd which people buy into. He is a joke.

XaduBoxer · 05-07-2009 12:47 AM

I expect PBF to win via a wide boring UD ... and how PBF will spin that out to PAC?

"Well PAC can only manage a draw and a split decision against JMM while me (PBF) schooled Marquez totally..."

**ElTerribleMorales** · 05-07-2009 12:52 AM