Who among the 147 champs you want PAC to possibly get his 7th division title?

[XaduBoxer]

Boxer,
Who typed this article?

What a crock of shit it is and whoever put it together needs to be slapped. It wouldn't shock me to know a Filipino writer put it together and going out on a wild guess here it's either you (or someone from that Pac site you guys post on)

It's funny because prior to Pac, todays Filipino fans didn't know about lineages and or the rich history of the sport. Now suddenly they know who beat whom and the whole history of the sport.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for fans supporting the sport and making it great but when people like the idiot who typed this article start doing things like this which is put WRONG/FALSE/INCORRECT info. that pisses me off.

He clearly does not understand what lineage means and is.

The WBC title went through so many names in the 80's that the lineage was lost somewhere along Chitlada-Kim as they traded the title.
After Chitladas win he no longer was the Ring Champ.
You can't claim lineage to a title because you picked up a strap. specialy when their is another title holder who just beat you.
Which was the case in the division.

The writer clearly leaves out that Yuri was never the Ring Champ. so there is absolutely NO lineage between Kittikasems win over Yuri.

Lineages are kept either by dethroning the champ and or #1 vs. #2 face off. As I mentioned Kim-Chitlada was the last lineage in the Fly division.

Pac has 3 lineage titles; Feather, Sup. Feather and Light Welter.
Which is great and Henry Armstrong would be proud of him.

This article was written by Cliff Rold... I think he's an American and a credible boxing writer...

Cliff Rold is a member of the Ring Magazine Ratings Advisory Panel and the Boxing Writers Association of America. He can be reached at roldboxing AT hotmail.com if you have inquiries about his article...

BTW, below is the link to that article:

link --> Pacquiao Aims for Four (and Six): Real History Part 1 - Boxing News

Well he needs to be fired from his job.
What's even funnier is that he works for the Ring but doesn't realize that the Ring never recognized Yuri as their champ...
It's simple. Yuri was not the Ring/Lineal champ therefor Sasakuls win did not make him the lineal champ.

You can email Cliff Rold a clarification if you want... What I don't like in your previous comment is how you mock Filipino boxing fans regarding their knowledge about lineages...

You need The Ring title to be recognised as lineal?

I thought the most bombproof method of lineal was "the man who beat the man?" The man who dethrones the champ?

You can trace Pac to the Kim-Chitlada fight.

Sot Chitalada-Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

So are you saying because The Ring stop recognising champions the lineal heritage should be scrapped? That seems pretty fucked up man.

Well the Ring are the people who created lineal champs.
How else are we to keep track.
Let me give you and example.
For the sake of the debate here...
Daisuke Naito can claim he's the Flyweight lineal champ because he can 'supposably' be traced back to "The Man who Beat the Man"?

Aside from Cliff Rold, ESPN's Dan Rafael also recognized PAC as a 4-time lineal champ... Congrats PAC...

Cliff Rold has really shown his smarts on lineage to me.
As I stated above by his viewing Daisuke Naito is the Lineal Flyweight champ.

Dan Rafael... PPPLU-EAAAAASE!
Rafael also recognized Joel Julio as the greatest thing since Port-A-Potties and yet here we are couple years later and Julio is well... Not so great to say the least.

Naito got his lineage from Sasakul-Pacquiao-Singsurat-Tunacao-Pongsaklek-Naito ...

Well at least Dan Rafael and Cliff Rold has millions of readers noticing that they recognized PAC as a 4-time lineal champ...
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