Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?

[sillent killer]

Pacman SD

[Quinito]

Pacman SD

That's a big possibility.

[RozzySean]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

The biggest knock on Pac is that his JMM victories are suspect. This comes down to matchups. Marquez is probably the toughest out there for him from a matchup point of view. In another thread, somebody accurately compares JMM's skill and to Kostya Tzsyu and points out that KT was brilliant against Pac-type fighters. He could neutralize speed with timing and counterpunch brilliantly. Well, Pac has managed to have two extremely close fights with a guy who is his worse matchup AND is P4P #2 in the world. Marquez is an amazing fighter who has gotten better with age. Even if you think he lost to Marquez, it doesn't diminish much from from the equation.

I'm not picking Pac in this fight just yet, but I will give Mayweather all credit if he takes this fight. It's by far his biggest risk, even more than Cotto. No knock on Cotto, but it comes down to the matchup.

[Skipper One]

Nobody knows Pacman's game better than Roach. He mentioned that something clicked inside him during the Diaz fight that even he was surprised. So I wouldn't rely on how he faught against Morales or JMM before. Pacquiao evolved into a complete fighter of the sport.

[Majesty]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

The biggest knock on Pac is that his JMM victories are suspect. This comes down to matchups. Marquez is probably the toughest out there for him from a matchup point of view. In another thread, somebody accurately compares JMM's skill and to Kostya Tzsyu and points out that KT was brilliant against Pac-type fighters. He could neutralize speed with timing and counterpunch brilliantly. Well, Pac has managed to have two extremely close fights with a guy who is his worse matchup AND is P4P #2 in the world. Marquez is an amazing fighter who has gotten better with age. Even if you think he lost to Marquez, it doesn't diminish much from from the equation.

I'm not picking Pac in this fight just yet, but I will give Mayweather all credit if he takes this fight. It's by far his biggest risk, even more than Cotto. No knock on Cotto, but it comes down to the matchup.

Zab Judah is a defensive oriented counter puncher.

Pacquiao goes straight forward and tries to plow through you with smart aggression. Zab caught Mayweather with the counter left off of Mayweather lunching.

I don't think Floyd would have to worry about Pacquiao waiting for him to throw in an attempt to counter him.

[Dr. Steelhammer]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

The biggest knock on Pac is that his JMM victories are suspect. This comes down to matchups. Marquez is probably the toughest out there for him from a matchup point of view. In another thread, somebody accurately compares JMM's skill and to Kostya Tzsyu and points out that KT was brilliant against Pac-type fighters. He could neutralize speed with timing and counterpunch brilliantly. Well, Pac has managed to have two extremely close fights with a guy who is his worse matchup AND is P4P #2 in the world. Marquez is an amazing fighter who has gotten better with age. Even if you think he lost to Marquez, it doesn't diminish much from from the equation.

I'm not picking Pac in this fight just yet, but I will give Mayweather all credit if he takes this fight. It's by far his biggest risk, even more than Cotto. No knock on Cotto, but it comes down to the matchup.

Pacquiao goes straight forward and tries to plow through you with smart aggression.

That's no longer the case. I've noticed his elusiveness during the Pac-JMM rematch.





Pacquiao didn't receive one scratch nor tiny mouse on his face when he fought Diaz, DLH, and Hatton. That should tell you something.

[Majesty]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

The biggest knock on Pac is that his JMM victories are suspect. This comes down to matchups. Marquez is probably the toughest out there for him from a matchup point of view. In another thread, somebody accurately compares JMM's skill and to Kostya Tzsyu and points out that KT was brilliant against Pac-type fighters. He could neutralize speed with timing and counterpunch brilliantly. Well, Pac has managed to have two extremely close fights with a guy who is his worse matchup AND is P4P #2 in the world. Marquez is an amazing fighter who has gotten better with age. Even if you think he lost to Marquez, it doesn't diminish much from from the equation.

I'm not picking Pac in this fight just yet, but I will give Mayweather all credit if he takes this fight. It's by far his biggest risk, even more than Cotto. No knock on Cotto, but it comes down to the matchup.

Pacquiao goes straight forward and tries to plow through you with smart aggression.

That's no longer the case. I've noticed his elusiveness during the Pac-JMM rematch.





Pacquiao didn't receive one scratch nor tiny mouse on his face when he fought Diaz, DLH, and Hatton. That should tell you something.

Marquez isn't a guy used to going forward. He is a wonderful precise counter puncher who can go to war and find holes and eventually can break down guys. Actually Marquez is actually at his greatest going forward mostly only when he is finishing someone, which astounds me. But Mayweather is faster then that and would pick his shots against Pacquiao better as I don't think he'd bull in trying to hit him like that, he'd make Pacquiao come forward and try to counter him and even if Pacquiao moved, he wouldn't have hit Mayweather anyway with the first shot Mayweather tried to counter.


People say that people have a plan against Pacquiao before they realise his speed is too much, same can be said for Mayweather.

[Rantcatrat]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

I disagree. Any of the top natural welterweights have as good of a chance against PBF. Maybe better. Pac is moving up to fight Floyd. A bigger version of Pac would beat PBF.

[Pavlik]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

I disagree. Any of the top natural welterweights have as good of a chance against PBF. Maybe better. Pac is moving up to fight Floyd. A bigger version of Pac would beat PBF.

Exactamento!!! IMO A bigger version of PAC could pose problems for almost anybody. PAC's only weakness right now is him being small, if he was at least the size(height and frame) of Mosely I'd choose him to beat even Paul Williams.

[XaduBoxer]

PAC was successful against great Mexican boxers...

PAC was very impressive against a Mancunian (White) Mexican...

Maybe PAC will be successful too against a "Black Mexican"...

[Chino]

Saddoooo Saddooooooooo...you are one of the many reasons why I want Pac to lose .

Pacquiao didn't receive one scratch nor tiny mouse on his face when he fought Diaz, DLH, and Hatton. That should tell you something

...against Diaz and ODLH, eh? Mentioning them and even in the same line kind of diminishes what Pac has accomplished in more challenging fights he has come out victorious. If I was a PacFan, I would stay away from mentioning Diaz and ODLH really.

Anyways, those videos you posted are good, but just a small part of what happened that whole night vs JMM 2 and the first one as well. Remember the times where Manny was on wobbly feet and almost going down from body punches? He has shown to improve somewhat in his defense but he can still get connected, something we are yet to see in Floyd Mayweather Jr. No wonder he leaves his fights with not a single scratch on his face. Maybe Pac can change that or maybe not.

[Kel]

PAC was successful against great Mexican boxers...

PAC was very impressive against a Mancunian (White) Mexican...

Maybe PAC will be successful too against a "Black Mexican"...

That sounds like something Larry Merchant would come out with.

[RP33]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

I disagree. Any of the top natural welterweights have as good of a chance against PBF. Maybe better. Pac is moving up to fight Floyd. A bigger version of Pac would beat PBF.

If there was a such thing as a "bigger version of Pac" then that hypothetical fighter would probably be top 10 ATG. Pac is what he is because of his size. He has ridiculous power for his size, which is why he was succesful at his lower weight classes, his speed was around the same as his opposition, but his power was always greater for the most part.. Now that he's moving up, he will be fighting "slower" guys with more power.. For there to be a "bigger Pac" then thats almost impossible..

Pac is moving up to fight Floyd, but Floyd has had the most trouble with smaller faster guys, not bigger heavy fisted guys.. So i would agree with Rozzy in saying that Pac poses more of a threat than Cotto. I think Floyd could slick his way through a Cotto fight and stay on the outside. Pac is faster than Cotto with plenty of power which in my opinion is more dangerous.

I'm going to have to watch PBF/Castillo and PBF/Judah again to really get some good insight on this potential matchup....

[Rantcatrat]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

I disagree. Any of the top natural welterweights have as good of a chance against PBF. Maybe better. Pac is moving up to fight Floyd. A bigger version of Pac would beat PBF.

If there was a such thing as a "bigger version of Pac" then that hypothetical fighter would probably be top 10 ATG. Pac is what he is because of his size. He has ridiculous power for his size, which is why he was succesful at his lower weight classes, his speed was around the same as his opposition, but his power was always greater for the most part.. Now that he's moving up, he will be fighting "slower" guys with more power.. For there to be a "bigger Pac" then thats almost impossible..

Pac is moving up to fight Floyd, but Floyd has had the most trouble with smaller faster guys, not bigger heavy fisted guys.. So i would agree with Rozzy in saying that Pac poses more of a threat than Cotto. I think Floyd could slick his way through a Cotto fight and stay on the outside. Pac is faster than Cotto with plenty of power which in my opinion is more dangerous.

I'm going to have to watch PBF/Castillo and PBF/Judah again to really get some good insight on this potential matchup....

First, I'm not sure that is true. When has Floyd fought a bigger, heavier fisted guy? Aside from Oscar. Not being rhetorical. Second, let's assume that Floyd has more trouble with smaller, faster guys than bigger, stronger guys. But, how about a bigger, faster guy? Because that is exactly what Floyd is to Pac.

[mofo2]

We will have to wait and see how Floyd handles Marquez having had time away from the game,but if Manny fights as well as he did against Hatton,he will destroy a ring rusty PBF!!