Why not, Haye takes out Wlad in less than four

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Did Klitschko not win every round against a guy who could give Haye a really tough fight? Ibragimov got silver in the olympics, he is has good speed, boxing skills, he's southpaw, has decent power, and is only an inch shorter than Haye. It was Wlad's speed and ability to dictate range that made Ibragimov so ordinary.

Sorry but Sultan Ibragimov fought so defensively against Wladimir Klitschko it wasn't even funny. And Wladimir Klitschko wasn't much better i don't see the comparison.

Sultan Ibragimov doesn't bring the kind of danger David Haye does with power, and lets be frank here why does everyone feel Sultan Ibragimov is so good ?

He was dropped against Ray Austin and fought him to a life and death draw. He won a pretty poor decision over a fighter that can't fight for more than 10 seconds of a round, and possibly the worst title holder in the history of the Heavyweight division aka Shannon Briggs.

And then Sultan Ibragimov won by about 5 rounds against a 44 year old Evander Holyfield, who hasn't been good since the late 90's. So tell me what is that good about Sultan Ibragimov ? because i honestly don't see why the Wladimir Klitschko fans rant about him so much.

He beat Shannon Briggs easily, give me a break, and he had a bad night against Ray Austin. Did Haye not get ko'ed by Carl Thompson? Honestly watch Ibragimov, he has good countering ability, he moves well, he has excellent speed for a heavyweight, had he not retired IMO he would beat Samuel Peter, Chagaev, Eddie Chambers, and would give Povetchkin a good fight. Ibragimov doesn't hit as hard as Haye, I am not sure there are many heavyweight that have that true power David possesses, but he does hit hard enough to badly hurt Klitschko if he had caught him cleanly on the chin.

Do you know why Ibragimov couldn't get off? Or Chris Byrd? Or the other guys who were fast that faced Wladimir? Because Wlad when he throws his jab is very hard to counter, it is a much quicker jab than people appreciate and it lands like a hammer.

The fact is both Klitschko and Haye are both exceptionally special fighters with three major flaws
1) No chin
2) lack of stamina
3) Could have better defensive skills(Klitschko could be taken off this list as of late).

I don't think this is a definite win for Klitschko, David Haye is the fastest and most athletic fighter he will have ever faced, and going against what I used to believe probably has the best knockout power, he might not literally hit as hard as Brewster or Sanders or Peter, but with that speed and accuracy he lands harder than anyone I've seen since Tyson.

I never said he didn't beat Shannon Briggs easily on the scorecards, what im trying too prove here is that its only Shannon Briggs. One of the worst title holders in the history of boxing, who can only fight for 20 seconds of the round.

What does it prove beating him and why do you think Sultan Ibragimov is that good ? get any top Heavyweight in the 90's and they would of destroyed that version of Shannon Briggs within 5 rounds. And you say he had a bad night against Ray Austin ?

That sounds like a pretty poor excuse and i think your only saying that, because that proves Sultan Ibragimov isn't that good to begin with. Yes he is a decent boxer who is pretty durable. But he isn't as good as the Wladimir Klitschko fans make out, and he certainly doesn't bring the danger element David Haye does.

Yes David Haye did lose to Carl Thompson, but that was when he was very inexperienced he battered, Carl Thompson from pillar to post. Then run out of steam and his corner threw in the towel. It was similar to Wladimir Klitschko's loss to Ross Purrity when he run out of steam.

But both of those fights were a blessing in disguise, because it made them both what they are today much better fighters. I do agree both fighters have weaknesses like suspect chins/suspect stamina's. But what i don't like what im hearing from some people is that David Haye has no chance when that isn't true.

As i said i think David Haye is the most dangerous opponent Wladimir Klitschko has fought since Corrie Sanders. And i think its a winnable fight for David Haye, im not saying David Haye will win for 100 percent, and Wladimir Klitschko has just as much chance of KO'ing David Haye. All im trying to say is that David Haye has a legit chance in this fight thats all im trying to argue.