Forgotten fighter-trainer pairings

[Snakey]

I was thinking after the Hatton-Pacquiao fight that the pairing of Ricky and Floyd Mayweather Sr. would be (in hindsight) a very strange part of boxing history and I got to thinking more about some wierd pairings of fighters and trainers, some that worked out and some that didn't.

So list trainer-fighter pairings that were a little strange.

Wladimir Klitschko - Tommy Brooks, Freddie Roach

Lamon Brewster - Buddy McGirt

George Foreman - Angelo Dundee

Mike Tyson - Tommy Brooks, Freddie Roach, Aaron Snowell, Panama Lewis


Anyone else have any fighter-trainer pairings that you think are a little strange?

Tyson and Fenech (against Mcbride)

[El Kabong]

Hell I forgot about Fenech! Tyson never seemed to find a decent trainer after Rooney which I guess is why people kept saying he should go back to him.

Evander Holyfield went through a TON of trainers too

[BIG H]

Freddie Roach and Steve Collins convincing Chris Eubank that Collins had been hypnotized and would see Eubank's head 5 times bigger than it was, so it would be unmissable!!

[Stander]

I was thinking after the Hatton-Pacquiao fight that the pairing of Ricky and Floyd Mayweather Sr. would be (in hindsight) a very strange part of boxing history and I got to thinking more about some wierd pairings of fighters and trainers, some that worked out and some that didn't.

So list trainer-fighter pairings that were a little strange.

Wladimir Klitschko - Tommy Brooks, Freddie Roach

Lamon Brewster - Buddy McGirt

George Foreman - Angelo Dundee

Mike Tyson - Tommy Brooks, Freddie Roach, Aaron Snowell, Panama Lewis


Anyone else have any fighter-trainer pairings that you think are a little strange?

Tyson and Fenech (against Mcbride)

not sure about that because Fenech and Tyson were both pressure fighters

[El Kabong]

Well the idea of the thread was to list fighter-trainer pairings that people look back on and go "When the hell did that happen"....when people think Tyson they immediately think Cus D'Mato and Kevin Rooney.

[rjj tszyu]

Well the idea of the thread was to list fighter-trainer pairings that people look back on and go "When the hell did that happen"....when people think Tyson they immediately think Cus D'Mato and Kevin Rooney.

Yeah for sure! The first thing I think of when someone says "Prime Tyson" is Mike bobbing and weaving his way in, avoiding all punches coming his way and landing his own dynamite. When Don King made him sack Rooney he almost immediately lost that and there went his invincibility.

The thing with Tyson was he was finely tuned and the few men that were around him from the beggining (Rooney, D'Amato and Atlas) moulded him into the fighting machine he was in the mid to late eighties, they knew him inside out both physically and mentally and when he no longer had these people around him, in hindsight it was always going to be downhill from there on!

[El Kabong]

I don't buy that he was ever "invincible" but he definently was a more complete heavyweight than Floyd Patterson. Floyd had great handspeed, pretty solid power, but no chin, and no size on him. Tyson was bigger, stronger, and he could take punishment if he had to.

[rjj tszyu]

I don't buy that he was ever "invincible" but he definently was a more complete heavyweight than Floyd Patterson. Floyd had great handspeed, pretty solid power, but no chin, and no size on him. Tyson was bigger, stronger, and he could take punishment if he had to.

Me neither! I was using the word invincible as a figure of speech. It was a label that was branded round for Tyson a lot in those days but looking back now he always had flaws and I think anyone who could have stood upto him and his punch like Evander did later on would have always beaten!

[El Kabong]

OK, that's understandable.


This thread also has me wondering why guys like Tommy Brooks, Ronnie Shields, et al don't have better fighters or don't have any good heavyweights.

Also I am wondering why Kevin Rooney's best fighter since Tyson left was Vinny Paz, and his best heavyweight since that time was Thomas Hayes. If his system works, and for some guys (stocky, short fighters, with quick hands) it does.

[Jody Lane]

I don't buy that he was ever "invincible" but he definently was a more complete heavyweight than Floyd Patterson. Floyd had great handspeed, pretty solid power, but no chin, and no size on him. Tyson was bigger, stronger, and he could take punishment if he had to.

Me neither! I was using the word invincible as a figure of speech. It was a label that was branded round for Tyson a lot in those days but looking back now he always had flaws and I think anyone who could have stood upto him and his punch like Evander did later on would have always beaten!

I agree. Tyson was a bully and all you need to do to beat a bully is stand up to him (in Tyson's case you needed a good chin too).