The Mayweather double standard.

[Quinito]

Floyd always says "Who has he fought/beaten?"....well who the fuck has Floyd beat?!?!?

He didn't WANT to fight Miguel Cotto, he didn't WANT to fight Paul Williams, he didn't WANT to fight Antonio Margarito.

Floyd is extremely skilled but hell Roy Jones fought better guys than he has!

That's the main reason he was a disputed WW champ. PBF should have fought them. Cotto, Williams, and Margarito are big names, just like Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

[TeleTuff]

Fact is Bob Arum never wanted A fight for Cotto or Margarito against Mayweather,Cotto so avoided Mayweather`s name that it was`nt even funny,I remember hearing,Jim Grey,or maybe Kellerman one time kinda grilling Cotto as to why he would not mention or talk about A fight with Mayweather with Bob Arum`s Drunk red ass standing behind Cotto whispering for him what to say,it was Pathetic!....

Nope,...O`l Bob got just what he wanted,kept it in house...Margarito v.s. Cotto,...now the end result is not what Bob would have preffered I`m sure but that was the Gamble,...Margarito loses fair and square to P.Williams(Which should have earned him A shot at Cotto)but instead he is opted to fight A dangerous contender,while Margarito is allowed to beat Cintron down again,(likely with loaded gloves)and the gets the fight with Cotto,...Believe!,...Bob Arum never wanted either Cotto or Margarito to fight Mayweather.

[blegit]

Floyd always says "Who has he fought/beaten?"....well who the fuck has Floyd beat?!?!?

He didn't WANT to fight Miguel Cotto, he didn't WANT to fight Paul Williams, he didn't WANT to fight Antonio Margarito.

Floyd is extremely skilled but hell Roy Jones fought better guys than he has!

That's the main reason he was a disputed WW champ. PBF should have fought them. Cotto, Williams, and Margarito are big names, just like Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

Mayweather dominated 2 weight classes. And lets be real nobody is dominating 147! Even Pac chose to cherrypick DLH out of that division and you'll never see him there again. Regardless of who you think is better. Can you be honest and say that there is definitely a Mayweather double standard?

[Quinito]

Floyd always says "Who has he fought/beaten?"....well who the fuck has Floyd beat?!?!?

He didn't WANT to fight Miguel Cotto, he didn't WANT to fight Paul Williams, he didn't WANT to fight Antonio Margarito.

Floyd is extremely skilled but hell Roy Jones fought better guys than he has!

That's the main reason he was a disputed WW champ. PBF should have fought them. Cotto, Williams, and Margarito are big names, just like Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

Mayweather dominated 2 weight classes. And lets be real nobody is dominating 147! Even Pac chose to cherrypick DLH out of that division and you'll never see him there again. Regardless of who you think is better. Can you be honest and say that there is definitely a Mayweather double standard?

First of all, DLH called out Pac, you have it the other way around. And second, nobody knew DLH was gonna be weight drain the night he fought Pac. FYI, Pac was the heavy underdog. 28 out of 30 of so called "boxing experts" picked DLH to win. Stop making shit up.

[killersheep]

That's the main reason he was a disputed WW champ. PBF should have fought them. Cotto, Williams, and Margarito are big names, just like Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

Mayweather dominated 2 weight classes. And lets be real nobody is dominating 147! Even Pac chose to cherrypick DLH out of that division and you'll never see him there again. Regardless of who you think is better. Can you be honest and say that there is definitely a Mayweather double standard?

First of all, DLH called out Pac, you have it the other way around. And second, nobody knew DLH was gonna be weight drain the night he fought Pac. FYI, Pac was the heavy underdog. 28 out of 30 of so called "boxing experts" picked DLH to win. Stop making shit up.

I can't fault PAC or PBF for taking the ODLH payday. That being said it was certainly not the most important fight of eithers career and should not be used to gauge their skill.

[blegit]

That's the main reason he was a disputed WW champ. PBF should have fought them. Cotto, Williams, and Margarito are big names, just like Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

Mayweather dominated 2 weight classes. And lets be real nobody is dominating 147! Even Pac chose to cherrypick DLH out of that division and you'll never see him there again. Regardless of who you think is better. Can you be honest and say that there is definitely a Mayweather double standard?

First of all, DLH called out Pac, you have it the other way around. And second, nobody knew DLH was gonna be weight drain the night he fought Pac. FYI, Pac was the heavy underdog. 28 out of 30 of so called "boxing experts" picked DLH to win. Stop making shit up.

Making what up? Back it up with facts. DLH hadn't fought at 147 in how many years? So he called Pac out? How about when Mosley called Pac out? How about Margarito calling Pac out? And I call Pac's move a cherrypick because he only took DLH call up offer. No real threat at 147 even got looked at. That is cherrypicking. You don't have to call the person out to cherrypick. How about Pac cherrypicking David Diaz at 135? I don't blame Pac for taking the cash cow DLH but don't overly credit him(drool on his balls) for fighting someone who was not a top 147 pounder. He wasn't even a 147 pounder. At 154 would have been credible. And lets keep your mouth clean and your facts also.

[Mr. Cosell]

What really kills me is that a couple of years from now people are still going to bitch that Mayweather "cherry picked" his opponents after he came back from retirement and beat the #2 p4p fighter in the world as a tune up to beat the #1 p4p fighter in the world. And yes, I am so confident that Mayweather is in a completely different league from both of them to make that statement beforehand. If PBF came out of retirement and signed to fight Kelly Pavlik and took him to a decision victory there would STILL be legions of people screaming that he ducked someone, as unbelievable as that is, but it's the truth. And I really actually do love that people hate him that much.

[TheMacMagician]

What really kills me is that a couple of years from now people are still going to bitch that Mayweather "cherry picked" his opponents after he came back from retirement and beat the #2 p4p fighter in the world as a tune up to beat the #1 p4p fighter in the world. And yes, I am so confident that Mayweather is in a completely different league from both of them to make that statement beforehand. If PBF came out of retirement and signed to fight Kelly Pavlik and took him to a decision victory there would STILL be legions of people screaming that he ducked someone, as unbelievable as that is, but it's the truth. And I really actually do love that people hate him that much.

You know what we should do, is to hell with this pound for pound bull crap. What if p4p no2 at the moment was Vic Darchinyan. Would you want praise for PBF beating p4p no2 then No. p4p means absolute crap in my eyes and its becoming annoying reading about it everywhere. p4p against p4p this and p4p that. What a load of twoddle.

Actual boxing fans know the match-ups they want to see and can surely see through the fickle nature of the now, Pacman vs PBF talk. What happened to PBF vs Williams, or then PBF vs Mosely when he dispatched Margarito.

I wanna see PBF beat a world clas 147 fighter like Williams or Mosley or Cotto and would watch that 9 times out of ten when pacman is concerned. I wanna see Pacman fight Marquez again. Just like I wanna see Vic Darchinyan fight Nonito again. Lets call it "True Foes" fight time. I say we have less of this moving up the weights and avoisding what we all know are the real challenges because lets face it, in a nut shell, it aint no different than Amir Kahn waltzing his way into Welter to fight for a title against Kotelnik, which he will win i'm sure, and will then try and call himself world class in the Welterweight division. Boll***s. Lets have you back down at LW to rematch Prescott first sunshine, your "Foe".

Sorry, rant over....

For the record, i see Mayweather catching manny pac on the counter all day long no sweat. Marquez will be a tougher fight in my eyes.

[Majesty]

Actual boxing fans know the match-ups they want to see and can surely see through the fickle nature of the now, Pacman vs PBF talk. What happened to PBF vs Williams, or then PBF vs Mosely when he dispatched Margarito.

I wanna see PBF beat a world clas 147 fighter like Williams or Mosley or Cotto and would watch that 9 times out of ten when pacman is concerned. I wanna see Pacman fight Marquez again. Just like I wanna see Vic Darchinyan fight Nonito again. Lets call it "True Foes" fight time. I say we have less of this moving up the weights and avoisding what we all know are the real challenges because lets face it, in a nut shell, it aint no different than Amir Kahn waltzing his way into Welter to fight for a title against Kotelnik, which he will win i'm sure, and will then try and call himself world class in the Welterweight division. Boll***s. Lets have you back down at LW to rematch Prescott first sunshine, your "Foe".

Sorry, rant over....

For the record, i see Mayweather catching manny pac on the counter all day long no sweat. Marquez will be a tougher fight in my eyes.

yeah but if Mosley was saying he was gonna fight the Pacquiao Hatton winner and Pacquiao won then no one on this forum would be complaining . They'd say that they picked against Pacquiao against Oscar and won't do it again and some will even stretch to probably say that Mosley could stop Pacquiao.

The fact is 4 pounds aren't gonna really make a difference in that fight if Pacquiao and Mayweather fought each other. Pacquiao has dismantled Oscar at 147 and knocked out Hatton at 140 so if him and Mayweather fought at 144 whats your problem?

To compare Vic Darchiniyan to that seems like a desperate stretch. Mayweather and Pacquiao are only 4 pounds apart not 25

as far as what happened to Mosley Mayweather and Williams vs Mayweather. And Mayweather vs Margarito those three are always thrown our along with Cotto and I will say it again like i've said it a million times

if Cotto was beat by Floyd they'd have said Cotto was inexperienced, as its the same excuse they used when Margarito won. And Paul Williams went up and down in weight and lets not forget he lost that title upon his first title defense and then after beating Quintana in a rematch he moved up in weight, don't blame Mayweather for that. As far as Shane goes he is playing the waiting game after beating Margarito and may have even called out the Pacquiao Hatton winner and i bet if he did no one would be complaining as much as if Floyd did.

[TitoFan]

This topic sure stirs up a lot of emotion...



In any case, fact of the matter is: PBF is perceived to duck the best, particularly at the higher weights he's been in. Pacquiao is perceived to duck noone, fighting the best regardless. You can argue back and forth till the end of time. The perceptions are there.

Fact is, while PBF retires "on a whim" and goes off to Dance with the Stars and wrestle pro wrestlers... Pacquiao has been "nose to the grindstone", going up in weight and taking on the best.

So I shed no tears for "poor" little Floyd. Far as I'm concerned, he lost his p4p status a LONG time ago. He wants it back, he's gonna have to earn it. End of.

(Oh... and good choice on picking JMM there, Floyd. Attaway to stay out of harm's way by continuing to avoid the dangerous, bigger fighters.)

[ElTerribleMorales]

This topic sure stirs up a lot of emotion...



In any case, fact of the matter is: PBF is perceived to duck the best, particularly at the higher weights he's been in. Pacquiao is perceived to duck noone, fighting the best regardless. You can argue back and forth till the end of time. The perceptions are there.

Fact is, while PBF retires "on a whim" and goes off to Dance with the Stars and wrestle pro wrestlers... Pacquiao has been "nose to the grindstone", going up in weight and taking on the best.

So I shed no tears for "poor" little Floyd. Far as I'm concerned, he lost his p4p status a LONG time ago. He wants it back, he's gonna have to earn it. End of.

(Oh... and good choice on picking JMM there, Floyd. Attaway to stay out of harm's way by continuing to avoid the dangerous, bigger fighters.)

he started at 130, and just by looking at him you can tell he's no natural welterweight, and IMO his resume at 130 and 135 is a hell of a lot more impressive than Pacquiao's, but the not gonna bother arguing it until the actual PBF/PAC fight is on

[TitoFan]

This topic sure stirs up a lot of emotion...



In any case, fact of the matter is: PBF is perceived to duck the best, particularly at the higher weights he's been in. Pacquiao is perceived to duck noone, fighting the best regardless. You can argue back and forth till the end of time. The perceptions are there.

Fact is, while PBF retires "on a whim" and goes off to Dance with the Stars and wrestle pro wrestlers... Pacquiao has been "nose to the grindstone", going up in weight and taking on the best.

So I shed no tears for "poor" little Floyd. Far as I'm concerned, he lost his p4p status a LONG time ago. He wants it back, he's gonna have to earn it. End of.

(Oh... and good choice on picking JMM there, Floyd. Attaway to stay out of harm's way by continuing to avoid the dangerous, bigger fighters.)

he started at 130, and just by looking at him you can tell he's no natural welterweight, and IMO his resume at 130 and 135 is a hell of a lot more impressive than Pacquiao's, but the not gonna bother arguing it until the actual PBF/PAC fight is on

And Pac started out a lot lower than 130. So to me, it's six of one... half dozen of the other. I still feel the perceptions are out there. And IMO, it's up to Floyd to dispel those perceptions.

[fan johnny]

This topic sure stirs up a lot of emotion...



In any case, fact of the matter is: PBF is perceived to duck the best, particularly at the higher weights he's been in. Pacquiao is perceived to duck noone, fighting the best regardless. You can argue back and forth till the end of time. The perceptions are there.

Fact is, while PBF retires "on a whim" and goes off to Dance with the Stars and wrestle pro wrestlers... Pacquiao has been "nose to the grindstone", going up in weight and taking on the best.

So I shed no tears for "poor" little Floyd. Far as I'm concerned, he lost his p4p status a LONG time ago. He wants it back, he's gonna have to earn it. End of.

(Oh... and good choice on picking JMM there, Floyd. Attaway to stay out of harm's way by continuing to avoid the dangerous, bigger fighters.)

he started at 130, and just by looking at him you can tell he's no natural welterweight, and IMO his resume at 130 and 135 is a hell of a lot more impressive than Pacquiao's, but the not gonna bother arguing it until the actual PBF/PAC fight is on

I understand its a hard pill for you to swallow but forget about it dude! Tito has it right! Floyd screwed his image all by himself and his mouth/timing didn't do him any favors either. (Too much attention whore syndrome)

[osncoll_0716]

Its this simple, Pacquiao has no qualms about fighting Floyd Mayweather. If Floyd doesnt fight him, then we all know what Roach has determined all along, that Mayweather is scared. There should be no reason for him not to accept a fight with PAC especially if he is wiling to fight Marquez. The only way to determine who the p4p best is if these two fight...but im with Roach I think Mayweather will duck Pac.....and make up stupid excuses.....weve all seen it before...He'll beat Marquez and make up excuses not fighting pac to end the issue....as for pac avoiding "boxers", when they make a name for themselves and are a worthy investment he'll have no qualms fighting them..... He's willing to fight mayweather and marquez right......Double standard for Mayweather He's fighting Marquez instead of Pac? Running and ducking again......

[Pacdbest2]

Mayweather dominated 2 weight classes. And lets be real nobody is dominating 147! Even Pac chose to cherrypick DLH out of that division and you'll never see him there again. Regardless of who you think is better. Can you be honest and say that there is definitely a Mayweather double standard?

First of all, DLH called out Pac, you have it the other way around. And second, nobody knew DLH was gonna be weight drain the night he fought Pac. FYI, Pac was the heavy underdog. 28 out of 30 of so called "boxing experts" picked DLH to win. Stop making shit up.

Making what up? Back it up with facts. DLH hadn't fought at 147 in how many years? So he called Pac out? How about when Mosley called Pac out? How about Margarito calling Pac out? And I call Pac's move a cherrypick because he only took DLH call up offer. No real threat at 147 even got looked at. That is cherrypicking. You don't have to call the person out to cherrypick. How about Pac cherrypicking David Diaz at 135? I don't blame Pac for taking the cash cow DLH but don't overly credit him(drool on his balls) for fighting someone who was not a top 147 pounder. He wasn't even a 147 pounder. At 154 would have been credible. And lets keep your mouth clean and your facts also.

DLH wants the money fight with Pac. So the fight was fought at a catchweight. They agreed with it. But still fans like you still thinks DLH will win easily.

Roach wants Mosley now. Pac said He knows how to beat Margacheato but Mosley got cheato 1st.

Diaz was picked because they belong to the same Toprank stable. Besides everybody knows Sta Cruz beat Casamayor. Diaz has a KO win over Sta Cruz?? After Diaz Pac challenges DLH. Did Pac need to prove anything at 135 after what he did to DLH?

You judge Pac & PBF differently coz they are different size. Pac just fought once at 147 by jumping 2 weight Class. PBF move up Gradually to 147. Floyd fought some easy fights at 140 & 147 before he fought the Top guys. Pac goes straight at DLH & hatton in his 1st fight at those weight classes. Pac also beat up DLH & Hatton a lot easier that what Floyd did. It Just Proves that Pac is the better fighter.