"speed is the essence of war"
sun tzu-art of war
Mayweather
Genaro Hernandez (only had lost to DLH)
Angel Manfredy (his only losses at that point were early on in his career, and at that time this fight was also conisdered 50/50, Floyd easily blasted him out of there)
Diego Corrales (was undefeated, basically considered a 50/50 fight, and Floyd dominated in every way possible, Corrales went on to be the man at lightweight)
Carlos Hernandez (went on to win a world title and give Morales all he could handle)
Jesus Chavez (went on to win a title and also became the man at lightweight at one point)
Jose Luis Castillo (twice, first was controversial, but he boxed cirlces IMO easily against him in the rematch)
Pacquiao
Erik Morales (lost the first fight clearly, won twice, and by this point he already had lost to Raheem, leading to the suspicion that he was shot, it turned out to be true)
Barrera (first was a good win but that was at featherweight, second was the same as above)
Oscar Larios (jumped from Super Bantamweight, to Super Featherweight to fight Manny, and had just been beaten up badly by Vazquez)
Juan Manuel Marquez (many believe that Pacquiao didn't even win the fight)
and David Diaz (a shot Morales should have gotten the UD against Diaz, enough said)
not saying that Pacquiao isn't on Floyd's level overall, but the FACT is, in those two weight classes Mayweather had better wins
ahh come on man? Your taking mayweather's wins and buttering them up getting every possible good detail you can think of and then taking Pacquiao's wins and trying to find every negative detail.Be fair to them, their both great fighters.
At 140lb Maywaether lost his mojo, before that he was destined to be an ATG, now he is no better than the come back of Ray Leonard (post Hagler) hand picking smaller opponents and making them fight at his weight when there are much more dangerous fighters in the same division.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
No no no my friend! Pound for pound Barrera and Marquez are far better than castillo, corrales ect. Barrera and Marquez will be in the hall of fame someday, they wont! I'd put my entire bank account on either Barrera and Marquez knocking castillo and Corrales out! As if their skills in the ring wern't enough, their hearts are much bigger than those two! I've seen both C's give up in fights and that just doesn't happen with Marco and Juan and you'd have to be an ignoramous not to see that, but then again I am speaking to elterrible!![]()
you named 3 fighters way above everyone else on pacs resume and you still think floyd has a better resume. so who on floyds resume is better than mab,em,jmm?
and answer my other question, so is floyd a natural lightweight not a natural welterweight? so shouldn't he fight jmm at 135 then? since jmm is lightweight king. or atleast fight jmm at 140.
floyd is a natural pussy who severly selected his oppenent. im sure if jmm was a welterweight he'd want no piece of him. jmm is a better version of castillo who gave floyd trouble.
MAB, Morales, and JMM are better than the fighters on Mayweather's record, but the point and time when Pacquiao fought 2 of them from 130 to 135, they were past it (Barrera & Morales), and he still didn't beat Marquez convincingly, Corrales and Castillo both are 2 HUGE wins especially when Mayweather beat both at their peaks, IMO Marquez is nothing like Castillo, no similarites in their styles what-so-ever, i agree Floyd should be taking the fight at 140, but to think that at his age he can go down to 135 after not being at the weight for so long is ridiculous, and yea i'd say PBF is more of a natural lightweight than a natural welter, same way as i still feel DLH was a natural welterweight and no middleweight, we know how his last effort at 147 turned out, i repeat i'm no big fan of either, i respect both but to say that Pacquiao is deserving of all the praise he gets and Mayweather is just a hype job is complete bullshit
3 names on Pacquiao's resume that are better then anyone Mayweather fought?
Sure they are "names" but lets take a closer look at it floyd hater![]()
He only beat Morales after Erik moved back down in weight and had already lost to Zahir Raheem. If Pacquiao was the warrior you make him out to be that fought everyone he would have fought Raheem but he fought a second match with an obviously faded Morales for the money and you can make the argument that Erik was past his prime and that the Raheem fight showed that. And there is a lot of people who feel Pacquiao lost both fights against Marquez and he barely won the second one, by one round because of the knockdown.
But on Mayweathers resume, everyone on that list with the exception of the first Castillo fight, Mayweather dominated them. But Pacquiao only dominated one and that was Barerra and it can be said he only beat Morales after Morales was past his prime and also that he didn't beat Marquez or barely squeaked by. So defend that![]()
There may be the three "names" on Pacquiao's resume but he only dominated one in their prime. all the names on Mayweather's list he dominated with the exception of the first Castillo fight and even then he came back and won the rematch with ease. Pacquiao on the other hand after "improving" only barely beat Marquez because of the knockdown and there is a lot of argument to say that he lost that rematch too. Meanwhile there is no one on Mayweathers resume with the exception of the first Castillo fight that you could find anyone that says that Mayweather could have lost![]()
Pac dominated marco both times, people can say marco was past it but there always saying that everytime he is losing. Em on the other hand did beat pac the first fight which was a close fight im sure we both will agree. If people are making excuses for these to great mexican fighters that they were past it well was pac primed when he dominated marco? lost to eric,knock him twice and then drew with jmm? won in the rematch? Aint that the double standard when it comes to pac?
OK you are right floyd demolish everybody he fought, but i'll ask you a simple question. Is he as ambitious when it come to having a tough fighting schedule like pac?
Pac: within about 15 months - mab(first fight at 126), jmm, eric(first fight at 130) = two different division.
Pac : within about 14 months - jmm, diaz, oscar, hatton = 4 different divison
Pac: next - cotto?, floyd/jmm winner?, mosley?
If floyd was as tough as pac he would of fought casamayor,koysta,mosely, cotto,margarito, williams, a long time ago or atleast one of themno but his fighting a lightweight champion currently
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Only beat him because of a knockdown?Thats the goofiest thing i've ever heard! "Thats like saying he only reason he one was because he punched him in the face more!" Yes it was a close fight and yea knockdowns due tend to give you an advantage duh! Even though Pacquiao is in his prime now, he would easily have taken care of Castillio and Corrales a few years ago with no problems!
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