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    Default Re: The one fight that got away

    I can't believe more people haven't mentioned Trinidad vs. Mosley. That fight would have been awesome. The other one I always wanted to see was Winky Wright vs. Oscar De La Hoya but I mentioned the Trinidad vs. Mosley fight first as I think it would have been a more entertaining fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    I can't believe more people haven't mentioned Trinidad vs. Mosley. That fight would have been awesome. The other one I always wanted to see was Winky Wright vs. Oscar De La Hoya but I mentioned the Trinidad vs. Mosley fight first as I think it would have been a more entertaining fight.
    de la hoya-wright was always a strange one for me as to why it didnt happen

    Oscar, sugar shane, winky and vargas seemed to primarily fight one another all the time. Im pretty sure thats the only fight that didnt happen between those 4!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    I can't believe more people haven't mentioned Trinidad vs. Mosley. That fight would have been awesome. The other one I always wanted to see was Winky Wright vs. Oscar De La Hoya but I mentioned the Trinidad vs. Mosley fight first as I think it would have been a more entertaining fight.
    de la hoya-wright was always a strange one for me as to why it didnt happen

    Oscar, sugar shane, winky and vargas seemed to primarily fight one another all the time. Im pretty sure thats the only fight that didnt happen between those 4!!
    Add Trinidad and Mayorga to that list as well. All 6 of those made 147/154 very entertaining to watch.

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    Default Re: The one fight that got away

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    I can't believe more people haven't mentioned Trinidad vs. Mosley. That fight would have been awesome. The other one I always wanted to see was Winky Wright vs. Oscar De La Hoya but I mentioned the Trinidad vs. Mosley fight first as I think it would have been a more entertaining fight.
    de la hoya-wright was always a strange one for me as to why it didnt happen

    Oscar, sugar shane, winky and vargas seemed to primarily fight one another all the time. Im pretty sure thats the only fight that didnt happen between those 4!!
    Add Trinidad and Mayorga to that list as well. All 6 of those made 147/154 very entertaining to watch.
    Add Vernon Forrest in as well then. Just on this whole why Oscar thing, people always say that he didn't duck the best, but in truth he never fought any of the best guys at 147 or 154 if they weren't bringing a load of cash. That's cool it is a business after all, but it gets on my nerves when people say he always went after the best, then he should of focused on fighting one of Forrest or Winky at 154 at some point this decade. He always went after the Pound For Pound champ (Shane, B-Hop, PBF, Pac) because of the money it brought rather than fight legitimate threats around those weights. I'm a big fan of Oscar but it seems since he retired people are looking at him through rose-tinted spectacles. Personally I give Mosley the most credit, I think he was always a weight division behind Trinidad (ie Shane 135:Tito 147, Shane 147: Tito 154, Shane 154: Tito 160) and that's why that never happened.

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    Default Re: The one fight that got away

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    de la hoya-wright was always a strange one for me as to why it didnt happen

    Oscar, sugar shane, winky and vargas seemed to primarily fight one another all the time. Im pretty sure thats the only fight that didnt happen between those 4!!
    Add Trinidad and Mayorga to that list as well. All 6 of those made 147/154 very entertaining to watch.
    Add Vernon Forrest in as well then. Just on this whole why Oscar thing, people always say that he didn't duck the best, but in truth he never fought any of the best guys at 147 or 154 if they weren't bringing a load of cash. That's cool it is a business after all, but it gets on my nerves when people say he always went after the best, then he should of focused on fighting one of Forrest or Winky at 154 at some point this decade. He always went after the Pound For Pound champ (Shane, B-Hop, PBF, Pac) because of the money it brought rather than fight legitimate threats around those weights. I'm a big fan of Oscar but it seems since he retired people are looking at him through rose-tinted spectacles. Personally I give Mosley the most credit, I think he was always a weight division behind Trinidad (ie Shane 135:Tito 147, Shane 147: Tito 154, Shane 154: Tito 160) and that's why that never happened.
    certainly did

    people moaned about oscar fighting sturm despite the fact oscar was moving up the weights, had just been beat and was fighting a current world champion for his title

    Other than that ODLH has pretty much gone after the best all the time much like gatti did despite the endless beatings he took!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post

    Add Trinidad and Mayorga to that list as well. All 6 of those made 147/154 very entertaining to watch.
    Add Vernon Forrest in as well then. Just on this whole why Oscar thing, people always say that he didn't duck the best, but in truth he never fought any of the best guys at 147 or 154 if they weren't bringing a load of cash. That's cool it is a business after all, but it gets on my nerves when people say he always went after the best, then he should of focused on fighting one of Forrest or Winky at 154 at some point this decade. He always went after the Pound For Pound champ (Shane, B-Hop, PBF, Pac) because of the money it brought rather than fight legitimate threats around those weights. I'm a big fan of Oscar but it seems since he retired people are looking at him through rose-tinted spectacles. Personally I give Mosley the most credit, I think he was always a weight division behind Trinidad (ie Shane 135:Tito 147, Shane 147: Tito 154, Shane 154: Tito 160) and that's why that never happened.
    certainly did

    people moaned about oscar fighting sturm despite the fact oscar was moving up the weights, had just been beat and was fighting a current world champion for his title

    Other than that ODLH has pretty much gone after the best all the time much like gatti did despite the endless beatings he took!!
    Disagree mate, the Sturm fight seemed about making some legacy, him being the first 6 weight world champion & all that, it was set before the fight began that he would win it. Was setting him up for a big money Hopkins fight. He's only gone after the best if it made financial sense. I mean don't get me wrong, he's been a great, but if the guy wasn't a big enough name or didn't have a title he wasn't interested.

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    Default Re: The one fight that got away

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    Add Vernon Forrest in as well then. Just on this whole why Oscar thing, people always say that he didn't duck the best, but in truth he never fought any of the best guys at 147 or 154 if they weren't bringing a load of cash. That's cool it is a business after all, but it gets on my nerves when people say he always went after the best, then he should of focused on fighting one of Forrest or Winky at 154 at some point this decade. He always went after the Pound For Pound champ (Shane, B-Hop, PBF, Pac) because of the money it brought rather than fight legitimate threats around those weights. I'm a big fan of Oscar but it seems since he retired people are looking at him through rose-tinted spectacles. Personally I give Mosley the most credit, I think he was always a weight division behind Trinidad (ie Shane 135:Tito 147, Shane 147: Tito 154, Shane 154: Tito 160) and that's why that never happened.
    certainly did

    people moaned about oscar fighting sturm despite the fact oscar was moving up the weights, had just been beat and was fighting a current world champion for his title

    Other than that ODLH has pretty much gone after the best all the time much like gatti did despite the endless beatings he took!!
    Disagree mate, the Sturm fight seemed about making some legacy, him being the first 6 weight world champion & all that, it was set before the fight began that he would win it. Was setting him up for a big money Hopkins fight. He's only gone after the best if it made financial sense. I mean don't get me wrong, he's been a great, but if the guy wasn't a big enough name or didn't have a title he wasn't interested.

    the fight was completely split down the middle 50/50 despite all these supposed conspiracy theorys i genuinely believe it was a genuine call from the 3 judges mixed with a tad of reluctancy not to score the fight for ODLH and secure a mega million hopkins-ODLH showdown

    felix can count himself very unlucky...but it was no eugene williams scoring round 5 for holyfield against lewis type robbery!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    Add Vernon Forrest in as well then. Just on this whole why Oscar thing, people always say that he didn't duck the best, but in truth he never fought any of the best guys at 147 or 154 if they weren't bringing a load of cash. That's cool it is a business after all, but it gets on my nerves when people say he always went after the best, then he should of focused on fighting one of Forrest or Winky at 154 at some point this decade. He always went after the Pound For Pound champ (Shane, B-Hop, PBF, Pac) because of the money it brought rather than fight legitimate threats around those weights. I'm a big fan of Oscar but it seems since he retired people are looking at him through rose-tinted spectacles. Personally I give Mosley the most credit, I think he was always a weight division behind Trinidad (ie Shane 135:Tito 147, Shane 147: Tito 154, Shane 154: Tito 160) and that's why that never happened.
    certainly did

    people moaned about oscar fighting sturm despite the fact oscar was moving up the weights, had just been beat and was fighting a current world champion for his title

    Other than that ODLH has pretty much gone after the best all the time much like gatti did despite the endless beatings he took!!
    Disagree mate, the Sturm fight seemed about making some legacy, him being the first 6 weight world champion & all that, it was set before the fight began that he would win it. Was setting him up for a big money Hopkins fight. He's only gone after the best if it made financial sense. I mean don't get me wrong, he's been a great, but if the guy wasn't a big enough name or didn't have a title he wasn't interested.
    Isn't that what you want though? A fighter going after the big names and thus getting the casual fan interested in boxing? In todays boxing society, few have as many big name fights on their record as Oscar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    de la hoya-wright was always a strange one for me as to why it didnt happen

    Oscar, sugar shane, winky and vargas seemed to primarily fight one another all the time. Im pretty sure thats the only fight that didnt happen between those 4!!
    Add Trinidad and Mayorga to that list as well. All 6 of those made 147/154 very entertaining to watch.
    Add Vernon Forrest in as well then. Just on this whole why Oscar thing, people always say that he didn't duck the best, but in truth he never fought any of the best guys at 147 or 154 if they weren't bringing a load of cash. That's cool it is a business after all, but it gets on my nerves when people say he always went after the best, then he should of focused on fighting one of Forrest or Winky at 154 at some point this decade. He always went after the Pound For Pound champ (Shane, B-Hop, PBF, Pac) because of the money it brought rather than fight legitimate threats around those weights. I'm a big fan of Oscar but it seems since he retired people are looking at him through rose-tinted spectacles. Personally I give Mosley the most credit, I think he was always a weight division behind Trinidad (ie Shane 135:Tito 147, Shane 147: Tito 154, Shane 154: Tito 160) and that's why that never happened.
    I believe if Mosley had beaten Winky it would have happened, as Trinidad was there to scout the fight. Its a real shame for me though, it would have been a cracker.

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