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    Default Re: Froch and Bute agree in principle to a Unification Fight

    I didn't read the thread, but this one gets my vote as the most inconsequential title unification fight of all time.

    dollars to donuts says the people who put together ppv won't touch this one.

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    Default Re: Froch and Bute agree in principle to a Unification Fight

    I'm conflicted on Bute, I think he is overrated and underrated at the same times. That's mainly because he's inconsistent, not from one performance to another but from one round to another. He looks unstoppable at times with those wild Montreal crowds at his back and then venerable and underwhelming the next round. Not to mention I think he is one dimensional which has been overlooked to a large degree but he really doesn't have much of an inside game. Even his left uppercut comes from way outside.

    Bute is infinitely more talented then Froch and he is a smart enough fighter to not get hit with a dumb shot which is basically Froch's only shot at winning. Also, Bute doesn't load up on his punches which might make more of a dent in Froch's chin because the shots you don't see hurt you.

    It's scary because I can envision Froch winning this even though he shouldn't, I don't think he will but it just takes one bad performance from Bute to help Froch pull off an upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    I didn't read the thread, but this one gets my vote as the most inconsequential title unification fight of all time.

    dollars to donuts says the people who put together ppv won't touch this one.
    Why is that? The winner fights Kessler for a full unification in a pretty deep division.

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    Default Re: Froch and Bute agree in principle to a Unification Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    I didn't read the thread, but this one gets my vote as the most inconsequential title unification fight of all time.

    dollars to donuts says the people who put together ppv won't touch this one.
    Why is that? The winner fights Kessler for a full unification in a pretty deep division.
    It was an off the cuff remark I made after coming home from the bar, I didn't consider the Kessler angle, but sober I wouldn't change much here. It's just that in my opinion these two guys have a low stature. They are very ordinary as champs go. PPV buys would be very low. Now if you can think of any title unification bouts of the past between two fighters of lesser stature than these guys, I'm all ears.

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    Default Re: Froch and Bute agree in principle to a Unification Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    I didn't read the thread, but this one gets my vote as the most inconsequential title unification fight of all time.

    dollars to donuts says the people who put together ppv won't touch this one.
    Why is that? The winner fights Kessler for a full unification in a pretty deep division.
    It was an off the cuff remark I made after coming home from the bar, I didn't consider the Kessler angle, but sober I wouldn't change much here. It's just that in my opinion these two guys have a low stature. They are very ordinary as champs go. PPV buys would be very low. Now if you can think of any title unification bouts of the past between two fighters of lesser stature than these guys, I'm all ears.
    This may be a slightly controversial thing to say, but I think the fact that both fighters:

    a) Lack marketability outside of their home countries (or in Bute's case, Province).

    and/or

    b) Have had very little exposure to the mainstream boxing public (if there even is such a thing these days).

    Means that CGM is correct in stating that this fight will draw little in terms of PPV numbers, or even regular HBO numbers. While I fight this to be a compelling match and an important one, I don't think it will drum up much interest.

    Look at the disappointing viewership numbers from a previous SMW unification bout in which two relatively well-known, but non-American, fighters in Calzaghe and Kessler. Both fighters were exponentially more recognisable than Bute and Froch, both internationally and domestically, and they still drew poor numbers on regular HBO.

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    Default Re: Froch and Bute agree in principle to a Unification Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    I didn't read the thread, but this one gets my vote as the most inconsequential title unification fight of all time.

    dollars to donuts says the people who put together ppv won't touch this one.
    Why is that? The winner fights Kessler for a full unification in a pretty deep division.
    It was an off the cuff remark I made after coming home from the bar, I didn't consider the Kessler angle, but sober I wouldn't change much here. It's just that in my opinion these two guys have a low stature. They are very ordinary as champs go. PPV buys would be very low. Now if you can think of any title unification bouts of the past between two fighters of lesser stature than these guys, I'm all ears.
    I guess if by inconsequential you mean the fight won't make money, then sure. But, from a boxing perspective, it would pit the #1 and #2 super middles against eachother and that can't be inconsequential, can it?

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    Default Re: Froch and Bute agree in principle to a Unification Fight

    As much as I dislike Froch, I have to give him a lot of credit for taking this fight, although I think people underrate Bute's power, the guy can hit. I think Bute takes Froch out around Round 10, I think he's just too good a boxer & those shots will accumulate. If Froch won this though he would be at least Pound For Pound Top 20 for me off the back of his opposition.

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    I think that the real test of the division will be Bute-Kessler once Kessler will be back, healthy and rustless. Froch, I give him tons of credit, he truly has the heart of a champion and doesn't duck nobody, that deserves tons and tons of credit as there is not many fighters who are classy and rational like that, going to prove that they are a champion instead of a money printing machine, no matter how reall he is talented, he deserves a lot of credit and Boxing needs more boxers with that attitude.
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    Default Re: Froch and Bute agree in principle to a Unification Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post

    Why is that? The winner fights Kessler for a full unification in a pretty deep division.
    It was an off the cuff remark I made after coming home from the bar, I didn't consider the Kessler angle, but sober I wouldn't change much here. It's just that in my opinion these two guys have a low stature. They are very ordinary as champs go. PPV buys would be very low. Now if you can think of any title unification bouts of the past between two fighters of lesser stature than these guys, I'm all ears.
    I guess if by inconsequential you mean the fight won't make money, then sure. But, from a boxing perspective, it would pit the #1 and #2 super middles against eachother and that can't be inconsequential, can it?
    So you are saying that all unification bouts are consequential then from a boxing perspective? or all weight divisions have consequential fighters at the top? I don't. SMW is at the bottom end of the list in terms of quality divisions. And these guys are low profile, this fight will be pretty much ignored except in Britain. But hey, that's just my opinion, you don't have to share it.

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    Default Re: Froch and Bute agree in principle to a Unification Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post

    It was an off the cuff remark I made after coming home from the bar, I didn't consider the Kessler angle, but sober I wouldn't change much here. It's just that in my opinion these two guys have a low stature. They are very ordinary as champs go. PPV buys would be very low. Now if you can think of any title unification bouts of the past between two fighters of lesser stature than these guys, I'm all ears.
    I guess if by inconsequential you mean the fight won't make money, then sure. But, from a boxing perspective, it would pit the #1 and #2 super middles against eachother and that can't be inconsequential, can it?
    So you are saying that all unification bouts are consequential then from a boxing perspective? or all weight divisions have consequential fighters at the top? I don't. SMW is at the bottom end of the list in terms of quality divisions. And these guys are low profile, this fight will be pretty much ignored except in Britain. But hey, that's just my opinion, you don't have to share it.
    I have to disagree there. SMW is not at the bottom of the list in terms of quality opposition. But, that is a good thread idea. Maybe I'll start one

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    Default Re: Froch and Bute agree in principle to a Unification Fight

    Props to Carl for taking this. Props to Bute aswell.
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