If Marquez beats Mayweather

[jamiebhoy]

At the very least it has be someone who beats Pac that takes the P4P title and even then if someone beats him that doesn't make you the best.

P4P IMO involves having done the things Pac has such as moving around weights chasing the big fights or fighting all comers. It would be unfair for someone to be named the best fighter of the time for simply winning one fight, what if Pac moved up a weight too far and got caught out, I don't think it makes his victor the P4P.

Pac stays #1 until beaten or until someone can emulate or pass his achievements so far.

Pac has not fought all comers and you don't have to lose to lose the p4p crown. Mosley and DLH both took the crown from RJJ without RJJ losing. Mayweather lost it without losing. If you have to get beat to lose it then Pac can fight bums such as David Diaz to keep the crown no matter who JMM is fighting. Doesn't make sense. And Pac is not moving around weights fighting all comers he is just moving around. He fought once at 135, once at 140, and once at 147. And nobody at either 135 or 147. He only gets p4p credit for the Hatton fight. JMM is the one fighting all comers. He has taken on the best from each division he has been at. Now he is taking on possibly the best of this era without trying to drain him at a low weight. And JMM isn't winning the p4p crown for only one fight. I just listed their last 3 fights. Pac and JMM are virtually even so any fight from here can catapult one over the other.

OK maybe not moving around but moving none the less, not too many can claim that they have won at so many different weights.As for 147 he will probably go there too to get PBF should he win.



Agree that JMM and Pac could be classed as even but lets not pretend that JM is being noble and not trying to drain PBF to a low weight, PBF calls the shots and as we know he will rather have someone come up and not carry the same power as him go down so I don't think that argument carries.
My comment about being beaten to lose it was based on Pac continuing to fight at a higher level and I will concede that if he started fighting bums as you call them then yes the P4P would change hands, but do we really think Pac is going to start running at this stage.

As an aside to those who knock Pac's result against a drained DLH, I would just say it's not his fault how his opponent turns up on the night, he just did his job, and no I am not a hugger I had Hatton to spark him ...........ooops

[JonesJrMayweather]

i dont think manny is p4p no 1 anyhow, but i really could care less who is ranked number one I'd just rather see the fights.

and if JMM beats floyd, which i think is very possible considering the rust. I also believe floyd will be dropped by a timing shot, but he will get up, win and then retire stating "his body can't do it anymore" only to come back for one huge payday fight...just my silly little theory..

[XaduBoxer]

End of discussion... Even JMM himself admitted that he won't be the best until he can beat PACQUIAO...

[Mar]

...i'd for one be relieved. We'd be close to the end of the world thinking boxing revolves around this guy, and focus on guys out there deserving more credit. Paul williams for example.

[fila907]

I agree wit Mar,Jamiebhoy,Saddoboxer..All them together took the words out my mouth.Only i want to add If Marquez did knock Floyd out i think it would be great for boxing..Like when Tyson got knocked out..It shook up the world..An i would be Shocked.

[Addicted to_boxing]

End of discussion... Even JMM himself admitted that he won't be the best until he can beat PACQUIAO...

Those are not his words ,that is just print media. He wants a 3rd match and is being politically correct. 100% of his interviews reflect that he feels he won their two matches. However on paper he got jilted..... Only a Win on paper can stop him from his obsession with Pac. It appears Pac is not too keen on a 3rd match. Wait I am sure you will post a Manila press release saying the opposite ... lol

[XaduBoxer]

End of discussion... Even JMM himself admitted that he won't be the best until he can beat PACQUIAO...

Those are not his words ,that is just print media. He wants a 3rd match and is being politically correct. 100% of his interviews reflect that he feels he won their two matches. However on paper he got jilted..... Only a Win on paper can stop him from his obsession with Pac. It appears Pac is not too keen on a 3rd match. Wait I am sure you will post a Manila press release saying the opposite ... lol

Print media always publishing fake statements??

JMM: "I won't think I'm the best until I beat Pacquiao"

It's clear as day... According to JMM, even beating PBF won't make him the best boxer today... It will only come if he beats Pacquiao...
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[Addicted to_boxing]

Not his fault ........ give me a break that was the strategy all along. Cockroach trained ODLH and saw little was left in the tank as in the Forbes fight. Then they have the guy drop down to 147 at his age too ........................ !!! Sure not Pac's fault !! It was genius manuevering by Pac's camp. They're brilliant at making Pac look ten folds better than the competion he is facing vs. marked-downed / on clearance aged, slow afoot ex champions ........ (Except JMM and MAB 1)