Anybody think Pac has lost 5 fights and JMM has only lost 1??

[Gandalf]

I had Pacman winning the first fight by 1 point and losing the 2nd fight by 3 points. Still when it comes to decisions, it's all subjective.

Let's not try to diminish a great fighter's talent and abilities just because you don't agree with the decision.

I don't think people are doing that. They are both exceptional fighters. Popular opinion means more than a judges scorecard at the end of the day.

[gest12645]

Pacman won both fights but JMM was robbed against Chris JOhh

[Gandalf]

Pacman won both fights but JMM was robbed against Chris JOhh

I agree that Pac beat MAB twice and JMM was robbed against Chris John.

[Pugilistic]

I felt Pacquiao won the first fight and Marquez won the second fight.

[BoomBoom]

I had the first a draw and the second to Marquez. Unfortunately for Marquez, if you take away the knockdowns he would have won both decisively imo. I scored the Marquez John fight a draw also. I didnt see that as the robbery that many people did, but I didnt think John did enough to win either.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

You know... Iv'e really made a point of averting this discussion. I just don't want to get into a debate about it.

Why? Because the opinion is so split. There's just no point.

BUT, i will say that i have watched and re-watched and re-thought, and re-scored and then re-re-watched BOTH fights over and over (I'll be honest, i think the main reason is that both fights are so damn 'Watchable'. ). And i'll be honest Marquez won both fights.

Not only that, but at times in the second fight, Marquez impressed me so much i even started thinking about naming my unborn Son Marquez

Seriously talented, gutsy fighter is Marquez

[Addicted to_boxing]

Unless you are a Pac fan a gift is covered up by supporting the judges and emphasizing the obvious that the outcome will remain in the record books