Hatton was a Fluke!!

[KostyaTszyuTeam]

Kostya had court distractions when he lost to Phillips. No real excuse though, he lost, same way to Hatton. Both time history will judge the better man lost. Phillips won, but nobody in boxing even rates Phillips. Kostya is going to the hall of fame first ballot, as soon as he officially decides to declare, now it's questionable whether Hatton ever will.

Kostya is rated as the second greatest fighter at 140 ever. Some rate Aaron Pryor ahead of him. All Marquez ever did was go up in weight. Both Marquez and Tszyu are going to the hall of fame, but if you asked most guys who would win at 140, Tszyu easy. Even if you take him back to a weight class lower and compare p4p, they have some similarities, Marquez and Tszyu.

The fact is, Tszyu was quicker when younger, he has a way better right hand, than Marquez, they counter punch similar, but Kostya can pressure fight better, and is p4p more powerful ouncher. Marquez went upo the weights, Tszyu didnt.

Tszyu could've started at 135, if he was 35 still fighting at the same weight he started at, and couldve fought up to 147 I suppose. He didn't. Marquez went up the weights, whule Tszyu has been world champion WAY longer than Marquez has been.

And yes.........you can make all the excuses you like, Chavez was of a similar age when he lost as to what Kostya was when he too lost. The fact that an old man was favoured by the bookies over Hatton tells you some tjings Tszyu had over Chavez. The facts are, Tszyu was better tahn Chavez at the same old age, and beat the best fighter Mexico ever had. He was an old man, JUST LIKE TSZYU.

[skel1983]

Kostya had court distractions when he lost to Phillips. No real excuse though, he lost, same way to Hatton. Both time history will judge the better man lost. Phillips won, but nobody in boxing even rates Phillips. Kostya is going to the hall of fame first ballot, as soon as he officially decides to declare, now it's questionable whether Hatton ever will.

Kostya is rated as the second greatest fighter at 140 ever. Some rate Aaron Pryor ahead of him. All Marquez ever did was go up in weight. Both Marquez and Tszyu are going to the hall of fame, but if you asked most guys who would win at 140, Tszyu easy. Even if you take him back to a weight class lower and compare p4p, they have some similarities, Marquez and Tszyu.

The fact is, Tszyu was quicker when younger, he has a way better right hand, than Marquez, they counter punch similar, but Kostya can pressure fight better, and is p4p more powerful ouncher. Marquez went upo the weights, Tszyu didnt.

Tszyu could've started at 135, if he was 35 still fighting at the same weight he started at, and couldve fought up to 147 I suppose. He didn't. Marquez went up the weights, whule Tszyu has been world champion WAY longer than Marquez has been.

And yes.........you can make all the excuses you like, Chavez was of a similar age when he lost as to what Kostya was when he too lost. The fact that an old man was favoured by the bookies over Hatton tells you some tjings Tszyu had over Chavez. The facts are, Tszyu was better tahn Chavez at the same old age, and beat the best fighter Mexico ever had. He was an old man, JUST LIKE TSZYU.

Number 2?

LOL Come on now are you Kostas dad? So you rank him higher than JCC?

[KostyaTszyuTeam]

I think, if I was being honest, Julio Cesar Chavez's long reign of victories surpasses Kostyas achievements. They did different things. Kostya was never dominated in even one pro fight. The worst he ever looked, was infact when he fought Hatton. Against Phillips, he actually got stopped, but they were both trading punches late, and he looked OK early to mid fight.

Chavez clearly got killed by Whittaker. Destroyed by De La Hoya, was lucky against Meldric Taylor etc. Who knows how many other corrupt decisons went his way in Mexico. Both great fighters, but Chavez would be rated probablt that bit higher for the volume of his wins.

Tszyu has a unique place. Rated top 2 140 fighters ever. The other guy, Pryor, while an offensive juggernaught, had alot shorter reign. Kostya had a 10 year reign as champion. So he has his unique place. The fact nothing went his way against Ricky Hatton, then he is forced to quit with his corner pulling him to no protest on his behalf, he turned old in that fight. The worst I ever saw him. Ricky also got the perfect conditions. A style of fight with a ref who didnt intervene much.


I think both guys fighting in their porime would be interesting, especually in Vegas. Probably one of the harder styles for Tszyu, but he didnt look good that night. He loves having a touch of space that he would've got more of in Vegas. Also, every fighter Hatton fought post Tszyu, was thinking this was the guy who beat Tszyu. tszyu underestimated Hatton, because you dont concede every advantage as champion, like fight in conditions you never fought in befire at 2am with rules like IBF can pick any local Ref, and not underestimate you opponent.

In the end, Ricky Hatton beat a great figher. He was on the older side, but yes, he could still fight. I was just stirring you abit. I hope Hatton has two more fights and retires with one of the recognised belts, calling it a day.

[KostyaTszyuTeam]

Ohh...as a 140 pounder I rate him one notch higher than Chavez, simply because he did more at 140 than Chavez, and was a trully great fighter anyway in his own right. Some guys rate him over Aaron Pryor, longer reighn , and Prypr only ever beat one top top opponent. The other guys, Pryor was just an electric offensive fighter, and alot was projection, and he didnt reign anywhere near as long as Tszyu, but concensus probably is

1. Pryor 2. Tszyu. 3. Chavez...........(Chavez rated higher alltime, though not at 140 exclusively, if you follow my point)

[leftylee]

I don't know why people are responding to his posts. Look at his username. He's just a wind up merchant.

[KostyaTszyuTeam]

You called it Lefty....I was just trying to wind some guys up. My honest opinion, I was shocked at the Hatton performance, and blame his trainer just as much. Hatton has done some good things. I was just stirring you for a while..