Slipping is NOT head movement?

[Chris Nagel]

Don't you think that avoiding a punch is a form of defense?

[God.in.my.corner]

I still don't understand the difference. I thought they were the same. Slipping is avoiding a punch, and head movement is what you do between punches, correct? Both I thought were considered "head movement".

[Chris Nagel]

I still don't understand the difference. I thought they were the same. Slipping is avoiding a punch, and head movement is what you do between punches, correct? Both I thought were considered "head movement".

The key difference is that "slipping" is when you are seizing an opportunity and deliberately avoiding a punch through head movement rather than otherwise incidentally. This requires the precise timing of a punch and then avoiding it. I suppose that you could look at it as a very important subcategory of head movement with a more specific purpose. For instance, actively slipping the jab and then countering.

[Youngblood]

Yea, it for me is basically a slight movement out of punchs target area, and throwing (usually inside) as a counter. That movement can be as simple as dropping down a few inches in stance.

[Chris Nagel]

Yea, it for me is basically a slight movement out of punchs target area, and throwing (usually inside) as a counter. That movement can be as simple as dropping down a few inches in stance.

The body movement in slipping is very similar to throwing punch without extending your arm. For example the motion of slipping to the outside to the jab would be like throwing a left-hook, and slipping inside would be like throwing a straight right.

You said that you usually slip toward the inside? I would think that it'd be to the more often to the outside since it'd be safer to (you wouldn't have to guard against their right hand).

[Youngblood]

Yea, it for me is basically a slight movement out of punchs target area, and throwing (usually inside) as a counter. That movement can be as simple as dropping down a few inches in stance.

The body movement in slipping is very similar to throwing punch without extending your arm. For example the motion of slipping to the outside to the jab would be like throwing a left-hook, and slipping inside would be like throwing a straight right.

You said that you usually slip toward the inside? I would think that it'd be to the more often to the outside since it'd be safer to (you wouldn't have to guard against their right hand).

Well, to sorta illustrate what I mean...often I will see say a left hook coming, and instead of moving away, I drop below the punch so it at best might graze off the top of my head...but by then a punch (s), usually straight right-left hook combo is being delivered.

So not moving in, but dropping down to set up counter and avoid punch.

[Chris Nagel]

Ah ok, I think I understand what you talking about. It sounds like ducking or rolling under a punch.

I was just thinking about bobbing and weaving, which is another specific type of head movement that would be interesting to talk about.