Can you be an all time great if your best win is against Zab Judah?

[The_Infinite]

BIG H, you shamed me

Im going to hide under by bed for a week just to forget this. Well then now that its clear, I still stick with my original answer.

No. But coupled with a few other good wins, you could.

We are talking about Tszyu... and I don't see anybody better on his resume than Judah

[BIG H]

We are talking about Tszyu... and I don't see anybody better on his resume than Judah

BIG H, you shamed me

Im going to hide under by bed for a week just to forget this.

[Nameless]

Oops sorry all, I misread the question as "if you got beaten by Judah, can you still be considered one of the great", I misread, all my apologies for the misinterpretation

[OumaFan]

I've been saying this for awhile.

I think he was a great fighter but he never got that elite fight to prove it.

Anyway I'm not sure Sharmba Mitchell wasn't better than Judah although Zab is a legend and a great humanitarian.

[KostyaTszyuTeam]

Tszyus best win was probably against Gonzalez who made 10 or so defences at 135 pounds. Mitchell was a better boxer substantively than Judah. Judah at his peak first time at 140 was dangerous. I dont see this current version of Juda beating alot of guys Tszyu beat. Hes damaged goods, so no, beating Judah doesnt make you great. What was more significant is he unified all three titles. At the time Judah looked to be a killer, in hindsight, there was only ever going to be the same winner in that fight anyway you look at it.

[BIG H]

Mitchell was a better boxer substantively than Judah.

The same Mitchell he beat 7 months before Hatton and then suddenly for some unknown reason became a hot fighter afterwards

[BIG H]

Gonzalez had already been taken apart by De La Hoya and drawn with an ancient Chavez that had also already been battered by DLH

[OumaFan]

Hatton would have always been trouble for Tsyzu because Tsyzu didn't have a great inside game and he didn't have quick feet, Hatton always did so he could get inside on Kostya just as long as he didn't get caught with too many rights on the way in. Once he got there the straight right was neutralized for the most part.

Look at some other guys Ricky's fought. Floyd's got a very underrated inside game. Manny is always on his toes, very quick feet meaning he can control distance better. Kostya would have always been a better matchup for Ricky than either of those guys.

I can't believe I'm still discussing this, I said this on here like four years ago.