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    Default Re: Who did Hatton ever beat?

    Quote Originally Posted by KostyaTszyuTeam View Post
    I hear you, I'm wrapping it up anyway by giving you guys a better balanced report, not just the chest beating. Alot of Hatton's prestige is derived off of beating the best opponent he has defeated to date Tszyu. On balance in defferement to some of the suggestions, that what I wrote..

    It's all winding down on my end. I came here originally wanting to see what was going on after the Pacquiao fight. As for Hatton and Tszyu, that what I had to say.

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    Nothing wrong with a point of view, I can carp on myself about certain things. It just seems everyday there is a new thread or two talking about this. That's all.

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    I'm turning down the endless banter. I actually like Hatton, and for the most part, many Hatton supporters have respect for Tszyu. True some of the Pacquiao clips were abit humbling, but you've got to be in it to win it. He gave it his best shot, and lost to two great fighters. The Pacquiao fight in particular, I don't think Pacquiao is THAT much better than Hatton to the degree we saw, more the style of Pacquiao made it seem worse being a southpaw. They are two different style of fighters.

    Yeah, I went abit over board having my say. This site is for you guys anyway..I hope Hatton fights on and retires with one of the recognised 140 titles honestly. He's been good value for the sport
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    The man is so maligned, and inconveniently so, when he is at an ebb career-wise. Gives me shivers...

    Some individuals can be insignificantlty incessant, yet a response is vital. Indifference to these shall harm a reputation built through skill and perseverance, one such as Ricky Hatton's.

    I thought the vid link below would rather be a better response to prevent a back and forth which will be emminent, and avoid assuredly meaningless chatter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3MQ5thzfYI
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    Default Re: Who did Hatton ever beat?

    Quote Originally Posted by KananKrus View Post
    The man is so maligned, and inconveniently so, when he is at an ebb career-wise. Gives me shivers...

    Some individuals can be insignificantlty incessant, yet a response is vital. Indifference to these shall harm a reputation built through skill and perseverance, one such as Ricky Hatton's.

    I thought the vid link below would rather be a better response to prevent a back and forth which will be emminent, and avoid assuredly meaningless chatter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3MQ5thzfYI
    Nice video.

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    It was a relatively good clip. It showed the sad contrast of a hurt fighter, then puts perspective for all the other good things he has done. It was at time errie, and the end, like a guy looking into the headlights of a future unknown. Not a bad clip, better than words I think too

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    Default Re: Who did Hatton ever beat?

    Quote Originally Posted by KostyaTszyuTeam View Post
    It was a relatively good clip. It showed the sad contrast of a hurt fighter, then puts perspective for all the other good things he has done. It was at time errie, and the end, like a guy looking into the headlights of a future unknown. Not a bad clip, better than words I think too
    Ive always liked Tzsyu,hell of a fighter.But Ruelas was shot to bits and going up did little to enhance his two left feet and matchstick chin,was ripe for the picken with Kostya.What did you think of the Lopez fight?

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    There is a story behind the Lopez fight. In the middle of the fight Tszyu starts complaining to his corner he feels usually tired. It was confirmed he was badly dehydrated, and he was using a proper nutritionist thereafter. Lopez was neck and neck with a bad performing Tszyu. I suppose you may have thrown that out there in reference to Lopez's relatively good showing, and Tszyu looking awful. He won the judges favour in a country where if any favour was going to be given it would be to Lopez.

    Apparently then IBF champion Jake Rodriugez thought Tszyu was perhaps not as much as he was made out to be. 13 seconds into the fight, if that, he drops southpaw Rodrieguez clean with a wickedly fast punch. The commentators then are saying, all those comments regarding Tszyu prefight, they weren't kidding.

    Yes, one of Tszyu's worst ever performances, though he got the nod. The Phillips fight was another story about being in and out of court, but again, he just lost to the better fighter on the night and made adjustments to how he approached fights there on. It cost Tszyu alot, as he was set to fight De La Hoya if he won. He had a great chance of beating Oscar, and if they did fight, the talk of whether or not he was great or not would soon become a mute issue. I can tell you definetively, Team Tszyu were very confident of taking out a Prime De La Hoya, and Tszyu had Oscars full attention. Arum has spoken of Oscars reverance of Tszyu as he was fully in tune with the rather fast, power punching agressive fighter he was back then.

    Phillips took him out, and that is history. So he was stopped of that Super stardom thrust, but credit to him, he reivented himself as a champion. Thereafter, that stigma of losing to Phillips hung around Tszyu with U.S. commentators for ages. He only gets alot of acclaim in the end, when the body of his work is telling.

    He held a world title from each of the years 95-05.

    Yes, he sucked against Lopez, he lost to Phillips, and he lost to Hatton. In regard to Ruelas, the fight is on youtube. Ruelas was still a good fighter, as was Gonzalez in particular, and both got destroyed badly from two very strong performances from Tszyu.


    Back to Ricky Hatton, he does what he has done. I think retiring with a world title, and on his own terms would be beneficial. He still has to recover, and prove he still wants it. If he isn't fully committed, he will get beat. If he is in it or one last proper send off, he has a good chance to out the way he would prefer.

    Noone like to see a guy hurt like that at the end of a fight. Pacquaio hit him as clean as you can with good speed and relative power. Health issues are a concern when you fight. I suppose that is what he is deciding with some time away.

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    I neg repped simply because you have 68 posts here so far, and about 60 %, possibly more have just been trying to bring down a fighter... I don't mind people bagging ANY fighter.. But when it seems it's the only thing they have to offer, it's detracting from our great site.. The best boxing forum in the world, and you gotta bring your standard up a little bit...

    Anyway, hope you have more to offer and once you've got this hatton stuff of your chest you can give some good input on other topics.. Then i'll positive rep you to balance things out..
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    Kostateam, why do you have such a high Fetishism about Hatton? I can understand that you're a very high Kosta fan but your relentless remarks about how Kosta was the better are starting to worry me. No matter what you think, who cares of Kosta is better or worst ranked than Hatton in the end? Your constant obsession about this topic is dangerously starting to look like a clinical case.
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    I've been around other boxing forums for ages. It's the way it goes, if you say something to your beliefs, then the other guy says the opposite, and the truth is somewhere in between on balance, given what perspective one takes, this sort of banter often happens in forums, particularly with opponents in common, or as direct opponents themselves in the ring, and in achievement etc.

    Hatton made the super fights with PBF and Hatton entertaining on 24 7. I suppose their have been some funny clips put out at his expense. Not so funny if he's your most followed fighter. Hatton has gotten alot of backing from quite afew quarters on the Tszyu forum. Other guys never got over the type of fight it was.

    More to the present day, Hatton is of interest coming off the last Super fight in boxing. He was hurt, so that wasn't good to see. I did tip Pacquaio by decision, as I believed Mayweather showed a fast straight cross can work against Ricky if he comes straight in. The only reason I tipped Pacquiao was because he was a SOUTHPAW, but I blame Mayweather Sr alot for the gameplan.

    It is fact you can train a guy who is a pressure fighter to negate the right hook, which is a dangerous weapon from the southpaw stance. Mayweather Sr should've had Ricky focussing on the lead right hand, and timing his movements off of it. Too many times he was squared up, He needed to actually move laterally alot, and feignt with hand uo to close distance.

    Anyway, you can safely assume Mayweathers services will not be reemployed. If Pacquaio was a right handed, I don't think he would be as effective as Mayweather was honestly.

    It wasn't his day, that all..

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    Default Re: Who did Hatton ever beat?

    Quote Originally Posted by KostyaTszyuTeam View Post
    I've been around other boxing forums for ages. It's the way it goes, if you say something to your beliefs, then the other guy says the opposite, and the truth is somewhere in between on balance, given what perspective one takes, this sort of banter often happens in forums, particularly with opponents in common, or as direct opponents themselves in the ring, and in achievement etc.

    Hatton made the super fights with PBF and Hatton entertaining on 24 7. I suppose their have been some funny clips put out at his expense. Not so funny if he's your most followed fighter. Hatton has gotten alot of backing from quite afew quarters on the Tszyu forum. Other guys never got over the type of fight it was.

    More to the present day, Hatton is of interest coming off the last Super fight in boxing. He was hurt, so that wasn't good to see. I did tip Pacquaio by decision, as I believed Mayweather showed a fast straight cross can work against Ricky if he comes straight in. The only reason I tipped Pacquiao was because he was a SOUTHPAW, but I blame Mayweather Sr alot for the gameplan.

    It is fact you can train a guy who is a pressure fighter to negate the right hook, which is a dangerous weapon from the southpaw stance. Mayweather Sr should've had Ricky focussing on the lead right hand, and timing his movements off of it. Too many times he was squared up, He needed to actually move laterally alot, and feignt with hand uo to close distance.

    Anyway, you can safely assume Mayweathers services will not be reemployed. If Pacquaio was a right handed, I don't think he would be as effective as Mayweather was honestly.

    It wasn't his day, that all..




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    No..Hatton is perhaps in the top 12 alltime 140 fighters. Thats a sensational achievement for Hatton. Tszyu is in the top 2 greatest 140 pound fighters ever.

    Kostya was right to be had BY THE BETTER FIGHTER ON THE NIGHT. I will Never Get Over It, after what you pulled, with a shody Ref papering over the facts he doesn't deduct a point for a very low blow that turned the fight against an old man, but sees fit TO GET STRICT not considering a belt line punch a knock down.

    The evidence..........has Paris ever reffed a big time fight since of consequence!!

    HATTON WAS THE BETTER FIGHTER..........now give me the suicide hotline no.
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