Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

[P4PChamp]

They might have more leverage but if Pac is too small to fight the top welterweights at their natural weight then he should fight the top 140 pounders. I sure don't agree with everything Floyd does but if he used these tactics he would be ridiculed and accused of trying to stack the deck in his favor.

[fan johnny]

They might have more leverage but if Pac is too small to fight the top welterweights at their natural weight then he should fight the top 140 pounders. I sure don't agree with everything Floyd does but if he used these tactics he would be ridiculed and accused of trying to stack the deck in his favor.

What planet are you from? Are you an absolute idiot? He did exactly that making a deal with Marquez. He forced Marquez to meet him at a higher catch weight and is being ridiculed and accused of stacking the deck in his favor. Mayweather picked what they thought is the fighter with the least risk and highest return. For Pacquiao, the 147 fighters are the mega bouts not the 140's, the risks are higher for him at 147 and they are just trying to even it out a little more.

Gaining a size advantage. It's not something unfair, it's just part of the game.

[P4PChamp]

They might have more leverage but if Pac is too small to fight the top welterweights at their natural weight then he should fight the top 140 pounders. I sure don't agree with everything Floyd does but if he used these tactics he would be ridiculed and accused of trying to stack the deck in his favor.

What planet are you from? Are you an absolute idiot? He did exactly that making a deal with Marquez. He forced Marquez to meet him at a higher catch weight and is being ridiculed and accused of stacking the deck in his favor. Mayweather picked what they thought is the fighter with the least risk and highest return. For Pacquiao, the 147 fighters are the mega bouts not the 140's, the risks are higher for him at 147 and they are just trying to even it out a little more.

Gaining a size advantage. It's not something unfair, it's just part of the game.

If he has to even out the playing field then he should be at 140. If he wants to fight the best welters then he needs to fight them at their best otherwise he gets little credit from people that are not fanboys like yourself. I would say him and Floyd are both cherry pickers and you can't say that one of them is without saying the other is also. They just go about it a little differently in their cherry picking. I agree JMM is hand picked by Floyd even though Marquez sort of called Mayweather out on HBO, but let's see how Floyd does against him. He gave Pac fits and I thought JMM won the second fight.

I will say that at least Floyd didn't force Dela Hoya to come down to 147 to fight him at a weight he hadn't made in a decade, he conceded almost everything in their fight and it was at 154. Pac had no problem fighting the CORPSE of Oscar at 147, but when he might have to fight a live body he wants to get a little weight drain advantage going on. Pac gets no credit from me for beating Hoya. I give him some props for fighting Hatton who was considered a top Jr. WW at the time, but had seen better days IMO. Hatton has no defense, his offense is his defense and since he kept his hands about chest level the whole fight and charged in recklessly in got KOed. I personally thought he would do better, so again credit to Pac, he did what he had to do.

[fan johnny]

This is the way winning or losing works:

W_ : L
1 <---

Means the fighter with the "W" gets the credit.

W_ : L
---> 1

Means the fighter with the "L" gets no credit.

Everything else is just an opinion.

Your opinion evidently is that if a smaller fighter beats a bigger fighter he gets no credit because he has to lose a couple more pounds or perhaps this only applies to Pacquiao? Well... I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[P4PChamp]

This is the way winning or losing works:

W_ : L
1 <---

Means the fighter with the "W" gets the credit.

W_ : L
---> 1

Means the fighter with the "L" gets no credit.

Everything else is just an opinion.

Your opinion evidently is that if a smaller fighter beats a bigger fighter he gets no credit because he has to lose a couple more pounds or perhaps this only applies to Pacquiao? Well... I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Negative, I think ANY smaller fighter should get more credit for beating a bigger fighter if he can move up and beat him at his best! Yeah, Pac got the win against Oscar and it does go in the W column, but the 1999 version of him would have beat Pac. Y'know the one that could still let his hands go, had good reflexes, could still make the weight. He was a shell of himself just as a fighter not to mention having to make 147 when they fought. But then again in that scenario the fight would never have been contested at that weight. Roach would have demanded 143 or something like that. I just think Pac gets too much credit for the win. People only remember the marque name that he beat not any of the intangibles that surrounded the win. Roach knew what he was doing and I give him the most credit for being shrewd.

The point is/was, he had no problem fighting Oscar at that weight but with anyone else thats got a heartbeat they want a catch weight. I wasn't around for the boxing days of yesteryear when champions moved up to try to win multiple world championships, but I would highly doubt they did all this catch weight negotiation stuff. A good big man will almost always beat a good small man. Do you really believe Oscar was a good big man
that night? You are correct, we are all entitled to our opinions. That is why this is called a forum.