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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    If Mosley and Pacquiao meet at a catch weight of 144.5 splitting the welterweight limits.

    Will the 147 Titles and the 140 Titles be up for grabs here because it is all the welterweight class, Right?

    Do they have to agree to put up their titles or is it up to the sanctioning bodies? I'm sure they are going to ask for their cut.

    And what about the Ring belt?

    Does it not defeat the purpose of having the weight class?
    I was going to ask this same question. I know the 140lb IBO belt and Ring belt won't be on the line as its above the 140lb limit.

    I'm not sure were the sanctioning bodies stand on this issue. Technically, it would be under 147 so the belt could be on the line, but if the contractual weight is not 147 then I'm unsure if they'd sanction it. If it was the Ring belt (which it won't be), then it would be on the line because Hopkins fought Wright at 170 for the Light-Heavy ring belt.

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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    It would be to all the parties involved.

    I'm sure as long as EVERYONE get's a piece of the $ pie $ they can come to an agreement.

    SRL-Lanlonde was for 2 titles in 2 different classes BUT they both had to weigh in twice and weigh in at each weight class.

    For example SSM & Pac would both have to weigh in at the 140 limit then go and weigh in again to the 147 limit.

    I think Hopkins wanted to do the same when he was gonna fight Joe.
    He wanted to have both his Light Heavy titles along with Joes Super Middle titles on the line.

    It's possible...

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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    I think that shouldn't be the case, however, I am not sure if its not hte case. It doesn't make sense for Mosley to win the 140 pound belt because he couldn't defend it or make that weight, and if Pacquiao isn't fighting Mosley at the 147 pound limit, he shouldn't get the belt that says he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think that shouldn't be the case, however, I am not sure if its not hte case. It doesn't make sense for Mosley to win the 140 pound belt because he couldn't defend it or make that weight, and if Pacquiao isn't fighting Mosley at the 147 pound limit, he shouldn't get the belt that says he did.
    agreed, you want a welterweight strap, you do it at welterweight, people try to thrash Mayweather all the time but hey, he wanted the 5 titles in 5 weight classes thing, he went up to 154 to fight Oscar, IMO PAC's gonna have to do the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think that shouldn't be the case, however, I am not sure if its not hte case. It doesn't make sense for Mosley to win the 140 pound belt because he couldn't defend it or make that weight, and if Pacquiao isn't fighting Mosley at the 147 pound limit, he shouldn't get the belt that says he did.
    agreed, you want a welterweight strap, you do it at welterweight, people try to thrash Mayweather all the time but hey, he wanted the 5 titles in 5 weight classes thing, he went up to 154 to fight Oscar, IMO PAC's gonna have to do the same
    Dude! Mayweather went up 1 weightclass after fighting 3 fights at welter for two and a half years. Do you realize Pac came up from 135 and was 130 one fight before that in less than 9 months to face De la Hoya? He met De La Hoya going down 1 weight class as Pacquiao's was going up 2 weight classes. Who does that?

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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think that shouldn't be the case, however, I am not sure if its not hte case. It doesn't make sense for Mosley to win the 140 pound belt because he couldn't defend it or make that weight, and if Pacquiao isn't fighting Mosley at the 147 pound limit, he shouldn't get the belt that says he did.
    agreed, you want a welterweight strap, you do it at welterweight, people try to thrash Mayweather all the time but hey, he wanted the 5 titles in 5 weight classes thing, he went up to 154 to fight Oscar, IMO PAC's gonna have to do the same
    Dude! Mayweather went up 1 weightclass after fighting 3 fights at welter for two and a half years. Do you realize Pac came up from 135 and was 130 one fight before that in less than 9 months to face De la Hoya? He met De La Hoya going down 1 weight class as Pacquiao's was going up 2 weight classes. Who does that?
    Shane Mosley, oh a minus the DLH having to go down to a weight class he hadn't fought at for nearly a decade

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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    Mosley would make 144 even just fine, stop making excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think that shouldn't be the case, however, I am not sure if its not hte case. It doesn't make sense for Mosley to win the 140 pound belt because he couldn't defend it or make that weight, and if Pacquiao isn't fighting Mosley at the 147 pound limit, he shouldn't get the belt that says he did.
    agreed, you want a welterweight strap, you do it at welterweight, people try to thrash Mayweather all the time but hey, he wanted the 5 titles in 5 weight classes thing, he went up to 154 to fight Oscar, IMO PAC's gonna have to do the same
    Dude! Mayweather went up 1 weightclass after fighting 3 fights at welter for two and a half years. Do you realize Pac came up from 135 and was 130 one fight before that in less than 9 months to face De la Hoya? He met De La Hoya going down 1 weight class as Pacquiao's was going up 2 weight classes. Who does that?
    Pac beat in Roach own words "a walking dead man". Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez would of done the same. It's not impressive once you look at the facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    agreed, you want a welterweight strap, you do it at welterweight, people try to thrash Mayweather all the time but hey, he wanted the 5 titles in 5 weight classes thing, he went up to 154 to fight Oscar, IMO PAC's gonna have to do the same
    Dude! Mayweather went up 1 weightclass after fighting 3 fights at welter for two and a half years. Do you realize Pac came up from 135 and was 130 one fight before that in less than 9 months to face De la Hoya? He met De La Hoya going down 1 weight class as Pacquiao's was going up 2 weight classes. Who does that?
    Pac beat in Roach own words "a walking dead man". Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez would of done the same. It's not impressive once you look at the facts
    Your nuts!, but your absolutely right! It's more impressive to watch....

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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    agreed, you want a welterweight strap, you do it at welterweight, people try to thrash Mayweather all the time but hey, he wanted the 5 titles in 5 weight classes thing, he went up to 154 to fight Oscar, IMO PAC's gonna have to do the same
    Dude! Mayweather went up 1 weightclass after fighting 3 fights at welter for two and a half years. Do you realize Pac came up from 135 and was 130 one fight before that in less than 9 months to face De la Hoya? He met De La Hoya going down 1 weight class as Pacquiao's was going up 2 weight classes. Who does that?
    Pac beat in Roach own words "a walking dead man". Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez would of done the same. It's not impressive once you look at the facts
    Give me a break, Oscar on that night would have killed Rafael or Israel or JMM, Manny was the one who could capatalize on Oscar because of his speed and in and out ability.

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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    it's all about evening out the playing field as roach stated. what, you want pac to fight shane at the regular 147lb limit? so, i guess you think it's fair that come fight night mosley would be at 160lb fighting the somewhere between 147-149 pacquiao. a catchweight imo is fair if this fight is ever to happen. 144 or 145lbs is good.

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    I do not think it should be allowed one fight at one weight for one title.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    It would be to all the parties involved.

    I'm sure as long as EVERYONE get's a piece of the $ pie $ they can come to an agreement.

    SRL-Lanlonde was for 2 titles in 2 different classes BUT they both had to weigh in twice and weigh in at each weight class.

    For example SSM & Pac would both have to weigh in at the 140 limit then go and weigh in again to the 147 limit.

    I think Hopkins wanted to do the same when he was gonna fight Joe.
    He wanted to have both his Light Heavy titles along with Joe's Super Middle titles on the line.

    It's possible...
    It was Jones that wanted to do that, but Calzaghe had already given up his belts.

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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    Only the welterweight (147) belts could be up for grabs. Anything between 140 and 147 is a welterweight regardless of whether or not the fighters concerned agree to weigh in at 145 or whatever.

    Anywhere in that seven pound margin and youre a welterweight.

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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    I've said it before and I'll say it again... if Pac wants to claim that he has a won a belt at welter and beaten a welter weight fighter then he HAS to let them fight at 147...

    If he doesn't want to fight a 147 pound fighter then he should stop fucking about with/talking about Welterweights.
    There's no shame in simply not being big enough but don't try to mug people off.

    You want to move up a weight class then you let the opposition fight at what ever weight within that limit they want... otherwise why should you have the right to their belt if it's not at their weight?...

    For example is David Haye trying to get Wlad to fight at a catch weight closer to cruiser weight?

    Is he fuck.

    Roach knows what he's doing and luckily Pac is such a big draw that the money is enough to tempt these guys to weight drain themselves
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