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    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Mosley has made a career of having no fluidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Mosley has made a career of having no fluidity.
    And you have the nerve to call OTHER people idiots?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    What upset me about Berto's performance was everytime he landed a significant blow he didn't really follow it up. It was like he said to himself, "nice shot, now let's dance around a bit."

    The holding bothered me as well. But on the other hand, Berto's handspeed is SERIOUS! He threw that lead left hook with his hands down faster than anyone I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    How the hell did Pacquiao get involved in this thread?!

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    Berto is probably playing it safe, his last fight with Collazo a fighter with 50 percent kayo ratio had him hurt when he traded. He shouldnt have done that against a naturally smaller fighter in Iron Twin though
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    What upset me about Berto's performance was everytime he landed a significant blow he didn't really follow it up. It was like he said to himself, "nice shot, now let's dance around a bit."

    The holding bothered me as well. But on the other hand, Berto's handspeed is SERIOUS! He threw that lead left hook with his hands down faster than anyone I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post

    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    How the hell did Pacquiao get involved in this thread?!
    My bad... Just exploring the possibility of PAC-Berto fight at 147 if PAC wants to get his 7th weight division title from Berto... Actually there's another thread about that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    I think PAC can defeat Berto at 147... Berto sucks...
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    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    Pac need to fight only HOFamers!! Berto will be a forgotten name. 20 years from now, if u ask any casual boxing fans if they knew about Berto, You'll probably get answer like "Berto the Beef Jerky Brand"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Berto is probably playing it safe, his last fight with Collazo a fighter with 50 percent kayo ratio had him hurt when he traded. He shouldnt have done that against a naturally smaller fighter in Iron Twin though
    I think Berto needs more fights before he steps it up to the elite. He easily won the fight with Forbes but it was somewhat competitive. He fought life and death against Collazo who is basically a class under the Mosleys, Cottos, and Mayweathers. His speed will give anyone he fights the fits but he needs more experience. His skills and his heart have already been tested and he's passed, he just not ready yet.

    I think people are hoping Berto turns elite overnight, but it won't happen. Him and his promoter are being smart, nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post

    Berto not the worthy for a pac opponent!!! Pac doesn't need to waste time. I think Ortiz will give him his 1st loss.
    Berto is just for PAC's 7th division title... I agree, many will protest if PAC fights Berto at 147 and not Mosley, Cotto or Clottey...
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    Pac need to fight only HOFamers!! Berto will be a forgotten name. 20 years from now, if u ask any casual boxing fans if they knew about Berto, You'll probably get answer like "Berto the Beef Jerky Brand"
    Just in case there's nothing fruitful will come out from the HOFamers, Berto is an option for PAC... Having attained a 7th division title is also nice for PAC's boxing history... If ever, PAC will become the only boxer in history to get titles in 7 different weight divisions... A record that's very difficult to break...
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    I think he's too damn short for 147 and needs to drop to 140 if possible. He almost looks like he lifts weights. If he does, then he should stop immediately. His fights at 140 are only going to become less and less dominant as time goes on IMO.

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    Berto fights with alot of nervous energy. He needs to calm down a bit in the ring. He could have stopped Juan easy if he held his ground and let his hands go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudahShuffle View Post
    I think he's too damn short for 147 and needs to drop to 140 if possible. He almost looks like he lifts weights. If he does, then he should stop immediately. His fights at 140 are only going to become less and less dominant as time goes on IMO.
    I don't think he is too short, he is as tall as Cotto and Mayweather and they've done fine at 147, with his speed he shouldn't even be too short for 154, I would just like tosee more fluidity, he has good boxing skills when he boxes, he has amazing speed, and good power, but he can't transition well at all.

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    Default Re: Berto is dissapointing me

    He's got all the tools to be a great champ, but there are some questions in places. Something I noticed that was off was Berto's balance, he doesn't seem have solid footing when he throws his shots, and if he takes on a good counter puncher he would have some serious problems, but if he can work this out he can hang with just about anyone.

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